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User:Staarkhand

2005-02-20T09:27:57Z

FierebladE: Added links to my current UI conglomerate

''Tichondrius:'' 
Staark - Troll/Rogue 
Prophetic - Tauren/Shaman 
Serpentis - Orc/Hunter 
Vesuvius - Undead/Mage 

Staark hit 60 and redid talents for the first of what I'm sure will be many times - at this point I was basically fixing mistakes. Over the course of later levels I've learned to like Imp Cheap Shot, consider Imp Rupture viable, and decided Imp Ambush wasn't going to work in groups - the damage is not a good trade off for the stun of CS.

===Current Build===
My working build for the time being is a slight variation on the classic 21A/8C/22S build, with the only exception being the 3 points suggested for Imp Ambush have been put into Imp Rupture 2/3 and Imp CS 1/3 (I'd prefer to switch the amounts in these two skills, but it doesn't work because of the 20 pt reqs for Prep and Imp CS).

===Considered Build===
My current spec is fairly vanilla and is historically derived from thinking about solo rogue PvP (only fighting with prep up, multiple vanishes/blinds/CBs/evasions), which I feel is a mistake - at least for the way I want to play - so I've been wanting to try something a bit different. A revelation was that it's possible to go with a dagger build and Imp BS without using Ambush (the low utility of which had been a mental block to me when considering dagger builds). The best way to do this is with Seal Fate 5/5, but the 8 points in Combat mean you really sacrifice Subtlety skills to get it. That build would look something like 30A/8C/13S. This would mean no Imp Sap, no Imp Rupture/CS, no Preparation and only 3/5 Inititive. My thoughts on losing these talents: 

'''Imp Sap''': So far in instances this is a convenience only, especially in a raid, I'll have to PvP more but I suspect I'll never use it in a group. For group instances it seems regular sap would work almost as well - usually you sap and the a sheep/charm lands right next to you as the warrior charges. Else I've sapped then garrote pulled, so really Imp Sap has only helped when drying to double sap with a second rogue. Less utility than I thought. 
'''Imp Rupture''': Currently Rupture is being hurt by the limit on status effects an enemy can have (for further enlightenment ask any Warlock). I still think this is a great talent for high AC bosses but won't lose sleep over losing it as it's less likely to be used in group PvP. 
'''Imp Cheap Shot''': This little beauty is really addictive as it allows you to CS, SS then gouge before the stun lifts (I can do this half the time with Imp CS 1/2, all the time with 2/2), or with 2/2 you can CS, SS, SS, and land a 5pt evis (75% of the time) just as the stun wears off. But in groups, especially raids, this isn't nearly as important. I can stand to lose it. 
'''Inititive''': Extra combo points 45% of the time vs. 75% of the time from openers. Unacceptable for the solo rogue opening every encounter from stealth and ending it quickly. For the grouped rogue who only opens from stealth once a pull (discounting vanish), over time Seal Fate will give far more points (consider Imp Backstab will crit >50% with good gear). 
'''Preparation''': This is a big hit. The ability to use timed skills twice in the encounter of your choosing is incredible. Leaving prep alone when out running around means you'll never lack an evasion for that add or a vanish for extra sticky situations. With prep up a rogue can handle rediculous encounters with multiple blinds, vanishes, evasions, and cold bloods. My initial reaction is that losing it is simply not an option, which is the reason I still have my current spec. However, a voice in my head asks if my thinking is still geared towards the way I have been playing the game - almost exclusively solo/duo questing, and not towards the way I will be playing - full groups and raids.

For now I only have an offhand dagger (fast), so it's a moot point. When I get a nice one I might burn some gold on trying that build out - I don't need a faster mount anyhow.

===Other considerations===
Deathstriker. When that proc goes it should be possible to get off evis (or SS), SS, and Evis again in 3 sec. Seal Fate makes a big difference in that second Evis.

That '''rediculous''' 47+ dps 2.9 speed (not a typo) Teebu's Flaming Longsword that dropped in Molten Core this weekend really makes you want to try it out with SS. But let's compare:

===Weapon Comparison===
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ BS with Deathstriker vs. SS with Teebu's Flaming Longsword
|Comparing:||Deathstriker||Longsword
|-
|DPS/Spd || 45.6/1.7 || 47.2/2.9
|-
|Average Damage|| 77.5 || 137
|-
|Average SS Damage (x + 72)|| (149.5) ''Won't be used in calculation'' || 209
|-
|Average BS Damage (1.5x + 210)|| 326.25 || n/a
|-
|3 SS's for every 2 BS's||652.5||627
|-
|Otherwise consider Damage/Energy (SS = 40, BS = 60)||5.4375||5.225
|-
|Given 20 Energy/second this translates to Skill dps ||108.75||104.5
|-
|Opportunity Talent Modifier (+20% BS)||130.5||104.5
|-
|Modified by crit % (assume 20% SS, 50% BS, average 130% crit with Lethality)||215.3||131.7
|-
|Combo Points Generated (compare 3 SS with no Seal Fate to 2 BS with Seal Fate 5/5 and 50% crit)||3||3
|}

Let's not forget that the Proc from Deathstriker could easily translate into 1500+ damage from guaranteed hits/crits.

Looks like daggers really stack up well even given this ungodly mainhand weapon. And I haven't seen a dagger out there from Molten Core, so if only comes back with higher dps or especially with >1.7 speed it's definately all on. The only consideration is how often you have the opportunity to BS (should be high % if you're nimble and not offtanking).

It's worth noting that this comparison is mostly valid for the Barman Shanker, which is notably easier to get than Deathstriker - although the latter is hardly rare, and much easier to farm than a Molten Core drop.

===UI===
I'm currently experimenting with [http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=298 Nurfed UI], supplemented with [http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-interface-customization&T=16068&P=1 Telo's addons] and [http://capnbry.net/wow/ Capn Bry's tools] for weapon swap and stance set.

User:Staarkhand

2005-02-01T16:49:59Z

FierebladE: Filled in some missing in from weapon comparison

''Tichondrius:'' 
Staark - Troll/Rogue 
Prophetic - Tauren/Shaman 
Serpentis - Orc/Hunter 

Staark hit 60 and redid talents for the first of what I'm sure will be many times - at this point I was basically fixing mistakes. Over the course of later levels I've learned to like Imp Cheap Shot, consider Imp Rupture viable, and decided Imp Ambush wasn't going to work in groups - the damage is not a good trade off for the stun of CS.

===Current Build===
My working build for the time being is a slight variation on the classic 21A/8C/22S build, with the only exception being the 3 points suggested for Imp Ambush have been put into Imp Rupture 2/3 and Imp CS 1/3 (I'd prefer to switch the amounts in these two skills, but it doesn't work because of the 20 pt reqs for Prep and Imp CS).

===Considered Build===
My current spec is fairly vanilla and is historically derived from thinking about solo rogue PvP (only fighting with prep up, multiple vanishes/blinds/CBs/evasions), which I feel is a mistake - at least for the way I want to play - so I've been wanting to try something a bit different. A revelation was that it's possible to go with a dagger build and Imp BS without using Ambush (the low utility of which had been a mental block to me when considering dagger builds). The best way to do this is with Seal Fate 5/5, but the 8 points in Combat mean you really sacrifice Subtlety skills to get it. That build would look something like 30A/8C/13S. This would mean no Imp Sap, no Imp Rupture/CS, no Preparation and only 3/5 Inititive. My thoughts on losing these talents: 

'''Imp Sap''': So far in instances this is a convenience only, especially in a raid, I'll have to PvP more but I suspect I'll never use it in a group. For group instances it seems regular sap would work almost as well - usually you sap and the a sheep/charm lands right next to you as the warrior charges. Else I've sapped then garrote pulled, so really Imp Sap has only helped when drying to double sap with a second rogue. Less utility than I thought. 
'''Imp Rupture''': Currently Rupture is being hurt by the limit on status effects an enemy can have (for further enlightenment ask any Warlock). I still think this is a great talent for high AC bosses but won't lose sleep over losing it as it's less likely to be used in group PvP. 
'''Imp Cheap Shot''': This little beauty is really addictive as it allows you to CS, SS then gouge before the stun lifts (I can do this half the time with Imp CS 1/2, all the time with 2/2), or with 2/2 you can CS, SS, SS, and land a 5pt evis (75% of the time) just as the stun wears off. But in groups, especially raids, this isn't nearly as important. I can stand to lose it. 
'''Inititive''': Extra combo points 45% of the time vs. 75% of the time from openers. Unacceptable for the solo rogue opening every encounter from stealth and ending it quickly. For the grouped rogue who only opens from stealth once a pull (discounting vanish), over time Seal Fate will give far more points (consider Imp Backstab will crit >50% with good gear). 
'''Preparation''': This is a big hit. The ability to use timed skills twice in the encounter of your choosing is incredible. Leaving prep alone when out running around means you'll never lack an evasion for that add or a vanish for extra sticky situations. With prep up a rogue can handle rediculous encounters with multiple blinds, vanishes, evasions, and cold bloods. My initial reaction is that losing it is simply not an option, which is the reason I still have my current spec. However, a voice in my head asks if my thinking is still geared towards the way I have been playing the game - almost exclusively solo/duo questing, and not towards the way I will be playing - full groups and raids.

For now I only have an offhand dagger (fast), so it's a moot point. When I get a nice one I might burn some gold on trying that build out - I don't need a faster mount anyhow.

===Other considerations===
Deathstriker. When that proc goes it should be possible to get off evis (or SS), SS, and Evis again in 3 sec. Seal Fate makes a big difference in that second Evis.

That '''rediculous''' 47+ dps 2.9 speed (not a typo) Teebu's Flaming Longsword that dropped in Molten Core this weekend really makes you want to try it out with SS. But let's compare:

===Weapon Comparison===
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ BS with Deathstriker vs. SS with Teebu's Flaming Longsword
|Comparing:||Deathstriker||Longsword
|-
|DPS/Spd || 45.6/1.7 || 47.2/2.9
|-
|Average Damage|| 77.5 || 137
|-
|Average SS Damage (x + 72)|| (149.5) ''Won't be used in calculation'' || 209
|-
|Average BS Damage (1.5x + 210)|| 326.25 || n/a
|-
|3 SS's for every 2 BS's||652.5||627
|-
|Otherwise consider Damage/Energy (SS = 40, BS = 60)||5.4375||5.225
|-
|Given 20 Energy/second this translates to Skill dps ||108.75||104.5
|-
|Opportunity Talent Modifier (+20% BS)||130.5||104.5
|-
|Modified by crit % (assume 20% SS, 50% BS, average 130% crit with Lethality)||215.3||131.7
|-
|Combo Points Generated (compare 3 SS with no Seal Fate to 2 BS with Seal Fate 5/5 and 50% crit)||3||3
|}

Let's not forget that the Proc from Deathstriker could easily translate into 1500+ damage from guaranteed hits/crits.

Looks like daggers really stack up well even given this ungodly mainhand weapon. And I haven't seen a dagger out there from Molten Core, so if only comes back with higher dps or especially with >1.7 speed it's definately all on. The only consideration is how often you have the opportunity to BS (should be high % if you're nimble and not offtanking).

It's worth noting that this comparison is mostly valid for the Barman Shanker, which is notably easier to get than Deathstriker - although the latter is hardly rare, and much easier to farm than a Molten Core drop.

User:Staarkhand

2005-01-31T20:52:35Z

FierebladE: Revised talent build/discussion - also added a weapon comparison of interest to rogues

''Tichondrius:'' 
Staark - Troll/Rogue 
Prophetic - Tauren/Shaman 
Serpentis - Orc/Hunter 

Staark hit 60 and redid talents for the first of what I'm sure will be many times - at this point I was basically fixing mistakes. Over the course of later levels I've learned to like Imp Cheap Shot, consider Imp Rupture viable, and decided Imp Ambush wasn't going to work in groups - the damage is not a good trade off for the stun of CS.

===Current Build===
My working build for the time being is a slight variation on the classic 21A/8C/22S build, with the only exception being the 3 points suggested for Imp Ambush have been put into Imp Rupture 2/3 and Imp CS 1/3 (I'd prefer to switch the amounts in these two skills, but it doesn't work because of the 20 pt reqs for Prep and Imp CS).

===Considered Build===
My current spec is fairly vanilla and is historically derived from thinking about solo rogue PvP (only fighting with prep up, multiple vanishes/blinds/CBs/evasions), which I feel is a mistake - at least for the way I want to play - so I've been wanting to try something a bit different. A revelation was that it's possible to go with a dagger build and Imp BS without using Ambush (the low utility of which had been a mental block to me when considering dagger builds). The best way to do this is with Seal Fate 5/5, but the 8 points in Combat mean you really sacrifice Subtlety skills to get it. That build would look something like 30A/8C/13S. This would mean no Imp Sap, no Imp Rupture/CS, no Preparation and only 3/5 Inititive. My thoughts on losing these talents: 

Imp Sap: So far in instances this is a convenience only, especially in a raid, I'll have to PvP more but I suspect I'll never use it in a group. Primarily a solo skill. 
Imp Rupture: Currently Rupture is being hurt by the limit on status effects an enemy can have (for further enlightenment ask any Warlock). I still think this is a great talent for high AC bosses but won't lose sleep over losing it as it's less likely to be used in group PvP. 
Imp Cheap Shot: This little beauty is really addictive as it allows you to CS, SS then gouge before the stun lifts (I can do this half the time with Imp CS 1/2, all the time with 2/2), or with 2/2 you can CS, SS, SS, and land a 5pt evis (75% of the time) just as the stun wears off. But in groups, especially raids, this isn't nearly as important. I can stand to lose it. 
Inititive: Extra combo points 45% of the time vs. 75% of the time from openers. Unacceptable for the solo rogue opening every encounter from stealth and ending it quickly. For the grouped rogue who only opens from stealth once a pull (discounting vanish), over time Seal Fate will give far more points (consider Imp Backstab will crit >50% with good gear). 
Preparation: This is a big hit. The ability to use timed skills twice in the encounter of your choosing is incredible. Leaving prep alone when out running around means you'll never lack an evasion for that add or a vanish for extra sticky situations. With prep up a rogue can handle rediculous encounters with multiple blinds, vanishes, evasions, and cold bloods. My initial reaction is that losing it is simply not an option, which is the reason I still have my current spec. However, a voice in my head asks if my thinking is still geared towards the way I have been playing the game - almost exclusively solo/duo questing, and not towards the way I will be playing - full groups and raids.

For now I only have an offhand dagger (fast), so it's a moot point. When I get a nice one I might burn some gold on trying that build out - I don't need a faster mount anyhow.

===Other considerations===
Deathstriker. When that proc goes it should be possible to get off evis (or SS), SS, and Evis again in 3 sec. Seal Fate makes a big difference in that second Evis.

That '''rediculous''' 47+ dps 2.9 speed (not a typo) mainhand sword that dropped in Molten Core this weekend really makes you want to try it out with SS. But let's compare:

===Weapon Comparison===
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ BS with Deathstriker vs. SS with X's Flaming Longsword (real name inc)
|Comparing:||Deathstriker||Longsword
|-
|DPS/Spd || 45.6/1.7 || 47.x/2.9
|-
|Average Damage|| 77.5 || 137
|-
|Average SS Damage (x +72)|| (149.5) ''Won't be used in calculation'' || 209
|-
|Average BS Damage (1.5x + 210)|| 326.25 || n/a
|-
|3 SS's for every 2 BS's||652.5||627
|-
|Otherwise consider Damage/Energy (SS = 40, BS = 60)||5.4375||5.225
|-
|Given 20 Energy/second this translates to Skill dps ||108.75||104.5
|-
|Opportunity Talent Modifier (+20% BS)||130.5||104.5
|-
|Modified by crit % (assume 20% SS, 50% BS, average 100% crit [''help me out here with a better number especially considering 30% bonus from Lethality''])||195.75||125.4
|-
|Combo Points Generated (compare 3 SS with no Seal Fate to 2 BS with Seal Fate 5/5 and 50% crit)||3||3
|}

Let's not forget that the Proc from Deathstriker could easily translate into 1500+ damage from guaranteed hits/crits.

Looks like daggers really stack up well even given this ungodly mainhand weapon. And I haven't seen a dagger out there from Molten Core, so if only comes back with higher dps or especially with >1.7 speed it's definately all on. The only consideration is how often you have the opportunity to BS (should be high % if you're nimble and not offtanking).

It's worth noting that this comparison is mostly valid for the Barman Shanker, which is notably easier to get than Deathstriker - although the latter is hardly rare, and much easier to farm than a random Molten Core drop.

To complete this analysis I need the following info:
Does Seal Fate work with Ruthlessness (give 2 pts from a evis crit)?
Average melee crit modifier (I really should know this)?

Classic (Tichondrius)

2005-01-31T18:26:02Z

FierebladE: /* '''Lock Picking''' */

This is for info on Tichondrius (PvP) tradespeople in the Basin. Are you looking for [[Tradeskills on Stormrage]]?

Information about pricing can be found in the [[Beta Market Prices]] page.

Format: Forum name - Character name [Level]

=='''Professions'''==
 
==='''Alchemy'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Alchemy Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill171.html Allakhazam] 

Bloodfly – Darwin 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [85] 
Helmar – Helmar [204] 
Katmarie - Zarana [202] 
Malphigian – Malphul [300] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [176] 
Staarkhand – Staark [300] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Tongar - ortliebj [165] 
Red - Reddy [300] 

==='''Blacksmithing'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Blacksmithing Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill164.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Armorsmith---''' 
Sardaukar – Sardaukar [??] 

'''---Weaponsmith---''' 
JcL – Jay - Axesmith [282] 
LucidityAxel - Grrtr [255] 
Champain - Champain - Swordsmith [290] 
Sjur – Sjur [242] 

'''---Undecided---''' 
Dan Solo - Danguinary [175] 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [120] 
Terrik – Deadterrik [??] 
Jadul - Jadul [165] 
Drake - Gor [150] 

==='''Enchanting'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Enchanting Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill333.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [195] 
Nvvty [170] 
Mojoka [281]

Sjur - Shira - [121] 

==='''Engineering'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Engineering Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill202.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Gnome Engineering---''' 
E.L.- Alita [285] 
Nvts – Nvts [255] 
impaling_inc - Creutzfeldt [300] 

'''---Goblin Engineering--- ''' 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [255] 
Baneon – Baneon [201] 
Yume – Eien_Ni [250+] 

'''--- Undecided ---''' 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Elyvin – Diest [50] 
Threndor - Gorlax [80] 
Rick – Jakther [106] 

==='''Leatherworking'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Leatherworking Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill165.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Dragonscale Specialized---''' 
Hasta – Hasta [291] 
Drake – Drak [259] 

'''---Tribal Specialized---''' 

'''---Elemental Specialized---''' 

'''---Unknown specialised---''' 
Nightchrome - Vhana [210] 
Dezz - Blackavar [212] 
cjam - Slora [242] 
Nekkid – Nekkid [142] 
Dan Solo - Gungadan [170] 
Trix - Kall - [1xx] 
Mashunit - Zogmash [63] 
Caolle - Grok 
Moridin - ishmael 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock [217] 
neuman696 - Delcannan [125] 

==='''Tailoring'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Tailoring Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill197.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Cathan – Cathan 
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [85] 
Dan Solo - Danperignon [130] 
Djhaigh – Stark [160] 
Elyvin – Diest [160] 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [125] 
Tharn - Divayth [110] 
Septra – Septra 
Dezz - Tish [105] 
Nvts - Nvtty [180]

Sjur - Shira [225], waiting for artisan lv req, currently lv 29 
Akim015- PIggie [300] 

== Collection skills==

==='''Herbalism'''===
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl 100 
Helmar – Helmar 
Katmarie - Zarana [199] 
Malphigian - Malphul [300] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon 
SpearStriker – Baroch [190] 
Staarkhand - Staark [300] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Woollybug - LadyBug 
Tongar - ortliebj [180] 
Red - Reddy [300] 

==='''Mining'''===
Baneon – Baneon [151] 
Champain – Champain [?] 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
E.L. – Alita [273] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
JcL – Jay [?] 
LucidityAxel - Grrtr [300] 
Nekkid – Vandyll [?] 
Nvts – Nvts [250] 
Olon97 – Olona [229] 
Perith – perith [70] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon [?] 
Sardaukar - Sardaukar [?] 
Sheena – Sheena [255] 
Sjur – Sjur [256] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [126] 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [?] 
Terrik – Deadterrik [?] 
Threndor - Gorlax [75] 

==='''Skinning'''===
Caolle – Grok 
Cathan – Cathan 
Drake – Drak [300] 
Olon97 – Olona [247] 
cjam - Slora [291] 
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Dan Solo - Gungadan 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin – Ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid 165 
Perith – perith [122] 
Tharn - Divayth 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall [1xx] 
Sheena - Sheena [300] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Nightchrome - Vhana [258] 
neuman696 - Delcannan [150]

=='''Secondary Skills:'''==

==='''Cooking'''===
cjam - Slora [256] 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [125] 
Katmarie - Zarana [191] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [150] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [115] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [300] 
Nightchrome - Vhana [225] 

==='''First Aid'''===
cjam - Slora [225] 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [90] 
E.L.- Alita [270] 
Nvts – Nvts [275] 
Sheena – Sheena [300] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [105] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [~ 70, will have to look it up] 
Slikkrikk - Greynok [210] 
Nightchrome - Vhana [210] 
Sjur - Sjur [270] 
Staarkhand - Staark [300] 

==='''Fishing'''===
cjam [92] 
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [150] 
E.L.- Alita [163] 
Nvts – Nvts - [215] 
Olon97 – Olona [193] 
Sjur – Sjur [225], waiting for coop on getting the required fish for artisan quest 
SpearStriker – Baroch [225] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [120] 
Brakken - Subaxion [212] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [235] 
Nightchrome - Vhana [202] 

=='''Miscellaneous'''==

==='''Lock Picking'''===
Bloodfly - Darwin 
Rick - Jakther 
Staarkhand - Staark [300]

Classic (Tichondrius)

2005-01-26T18:51:30Z

FierebladE: Staark's Skills

This is for info on Tichondrius (PvP) tradespeople in the Basin. Are you looking for [[Tradeskills on Stormrage]]?

Information about pricing can be found in the [[Beta Market Prices]] page.

Format: Forum name - Character name [Level]

=='''Professions'''==
 
==='''Alchemy'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Alchemy Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill171.html Allakhazam] 

Bloodfly – Darwin 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [85] 
Helmar – Helmar [204] 
Katmarie - Zarana [202] 
Malphigian – Malphul [300] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [176] 
Staarkhand – Staark [300] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Tongar - ortliebj [150] 
Red - Reddy [300] 

==='''Blacksmithing'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Blacksmithing Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill164.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Armorsmith---''' 
Sardaukar – Sardaukar [??] 

'''---Weaponsmith---''' 
JcL – Jay [??] 
LucidityAxel - Grrtr [255] 

'''---Undecided---''' 
Champain - Champain [??] 
Dan Solo - Danguinary [175] 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
Sjur – Sjur [225] On hold 'til I get mount 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [120] 
Terrik – Deadterrik [??] 
Jadul - Jadul [165] 
Drake - Gor [150] 

==='''Enchanting'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Enchanting Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill333.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [195] 
Nvvty [170] 
Mojoka [281]

Sjur - Shira - [91] 

==='''Engineering'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Engineering Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill202.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Gnome Engineering---''' 
E.L.- Alita [260] 
Nvts – Nvts [255] 
impaling_inc - Creutzfeldt [300] 

'''---Goblin Engineering--- ''' 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [255] 
Baneon – Baneon [201] 
Yume – Eien_Ni [250+] 

'''--- Undecided ---''' 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Elyvin – Diest [50] 
Threndor - Gorlax [80] 
Rick – Jakther [106] 

==='''Leatherworking'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Leatherworking Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill165.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Dragonscale Specialized---''' 
Hasta – Hasta [291] 
Drake – Drak [259] 

'''---Tribal Specialized---''' 

'''---Elemental Specialized---''' 

'''---Unknown specialised---''' 
Nightchrome - Vhana [210] 
Dezz - Blackavar [212] 
cjam - Slora [192] 
Nekkid – Nekkid [142] 
Dan Solo - Gungadan [170] 
Trix - Kall - [1xx] 
Mashunit - Zogmash [63] 
Caolle - Grok 
Moridin - ishmael 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
neuman696 - Delcannan [125] 

==='''Tailoring'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Tailoring Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill197.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Cathan – Cathan 
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [85] 
Dan Solo - Danperignon [130] 
Djhaigh – Stark [160] 
Elyvin – Diest [160] 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [125] 
Tharn - Divayth [110] 
Septra – Septra 
Dezz - Tish [105] 
Nvts - Nvtty [180]

Sjur - Shira [213] 
Akim015- PIggie [300] 

== Collection skills==

==='''Herbalism'''===
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl 100 
Helmar – Helmar 
Katmarie - Zarana [199] 
Malphigian - Malphul [300] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon 
SpearStriker – Baroch [190] 
Staarkhand - Staark [300] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Woollybug - LadyBug 
Tongar - ortliebj [150] 
Red - Reddy [300] 

==='''Mining'''===
Baneon – Baneon [151] 
Champain – Champain [?] 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
E.L. – Alita [252] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
JcL – Jay [?] 
LucidityAxel - Grrtr [300] 
Nekkid – Vandyll [?] 
Nvts – Nvts [250] 
Olon97 – Olona [229] 
Perith – perith [70] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon [?] 
Sardaukar - Sardaukar [?] 
Sheena – Sheena [255] 
Sjur – Sjur [250] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [126] 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [?] 
Terrik – Deadterrik [?] 
Threndor - Gorlax [75] 

==='''Skinning'''===
Caolle – Grok 
Cathan – Cathan 
Drake – Drak [300] 
Olon97 – Olona [247] 
cjam - Slora [263] 
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Dan Solo - Gungadan 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin – Ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid 165 
Perith – perith [122] 
Tharn - Divayth 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall [1xx] 
Sheena - Sheena [300] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Nightchrome - Vhana [258] 
neuman696 - Delcannan [150]

=='''Secondary Skills:'''==

==='''Cooking'''===
cjam - Slora [225] 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [125] 
Katmarie - Zarana [191] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [150] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [115] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [300] 
Nightchrome - Vhana [225] 

==='''First Aid'''===
cjam - Slora [150] 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [90] 
E.L.- Alita [221] 
Nvts – Nvts [275] 
Sheena – Sheena [300] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [105] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [~ 70, will have to look it up] 
Slikkrikk - Greynok [210] 
Nightchrome - Vhana [210] 
Sjur - Sjur [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [300] 

==='''Fishing'''===
cjam [81] 
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [150] 
E.L.- Alita [163] 
Nvts – Nvts - [215] 
Olon97 – Olona [193] 
Sjur – Sjur [225] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [225] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [120] 
Brakken - Subaxion [212] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [235] 
Nightchrome - Vhana [202] 

=='''Miscellaneous'''==

==='''Lock Picking'''===
Bloodfly - Darwin 
Rick - Jakther 
Staarkhand - Staark [265]

Dagger guide

2005-01-18T20:59:58Z

FierebladE: Added Bonescraper

==Levels 10-19==
There are an additional 11 daggers listed for levels 16-19. In this range we start to see the first blue items.

{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior Daggers level 10-19
| Name || DPS || Speed || Avg Dmg || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=1304 Blade of Cunning] ||6.7 || - || - || +1 Subtlety || - ||The appropriate quest can be obtained from the Rogue Trainer in the race specific level 1-10 areas. ||[[Gnome rogue spoiler]]
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=6726 Slicer Blade] || 8.7 || - || - || - || - || Westfall || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4914 Scrimshaw Dagger] || 8.9 || - || - || - || - || Quest || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=1875 Harpy Skinner] || 9.6 ||-||-||3 Agi|| - || Horde quest || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=6958 Venom Web Fang] || 9.7|| - || - || -|| 1 DPS poison|| drops in Duskwood || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=6970 Buzzer Blade]|| - ||-||-||-||-||Boss Sneed in The Deadmines ||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3058 Relic Blade] || 10 || - || -||3 Sta||- || Alliance quest in Darkshore || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?s=big+bronze+knife Big Bronze Knife] || 10 || - || - || 3 Sta || - || Crafted || aka BBK
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3066 Hook dagger of <stat>] || 10 || - || - || 3 X || - || - || [[hook daggers in DM]]
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3322 Spikelash]|| 11.1||- ||-||2 Agi 2 Str||-||-||-
|-
||[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3414 Tail Spike] || 11.1||- ||-||2 Agi 2 Str||-||-||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4652 Pearl-handled Dagger]||11.5 ||-||-||2 Agi 2 Sta|| -||Crafted||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=10328 Evocator's Blade]|| 15.3 || - || - || 4 Int 2 Spi|| -|| -||Caster blade
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=12802 Assassin's Blade] || 15.5 || - || - || +4 Agi +3 Str|| - || Drops from Archmage Arugal in Shadowfang keep || -
|}

==Levels 20-24==
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior Daggers level 20-24
| Name || DPS || Speed || Max Damage || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4561 Deadly Bronze Poniard]|| 12.8 || 1.8 || - || 4 Agility || - || crafted || -
|-
|Battle Knife of <stat> || 13.4 || 1.6 || - || random || - || random world drop || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5161 Wyvern Tailspike] || 13.6 || 1.8 || - || - || 2 DPS poison || Pridewing Patriarch in the Stonetalon Mountains || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9423 Naraxis Fang]|| 13.7 || 1.6 || - || - || 2DPS poison || Naraxis in eastern Duskwood || -
|-
|Cross Dagger of <stat> || 14.6 || 1.30 || - || random || - || random world drop||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9986 Flesh Piercer]|| 15.2 || 2.0 || - || - || 1DPS bleed || Hillsbrad Foothills || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5182 Blackfang]||16.3|| 1.5||-||-||-||random world drop||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11976 Doomspike] ||16.3 || 1.5 ||-||-||-||unknown||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11785 Prison Shank] || 16.7||1.8|| - || - ||- ||Bruegal Ironknuckle in the [[Stockades]]||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5663 Talon of Vultros]||16.7 ||2.0||-||-||-||named rare spawn Vulture in Westfall||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9688 Bite of Serra'kis] ||17.7 || 1.3|| -||-||-||Old Serra'kis in [[Blackfathom Deeps]]||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9472 Meteor Shard] || 18.3 || 1.8 || -||- || Firebolt|| Archmage Arugal in [[ShadowFang Keep]]||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/?i=4099 Blackvenom Blade] || 18.9 || 1.8 ||-||-||-||Rohh the Silent in eastern Redridge Mountains|| Rohn may be hard to find
|}

==Levels 25-29==
Past level 25 the number of useful daggers starts to drop off. There are 6 useful daggers in the 25-29 range.
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior Daggers level 25-29
| Name || DPS || Speed || Max Damage || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
| Honed Stilettos of <stat> ||15.7 || 1.4 || - || random || - || random world drop || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=6182 Broad Bladed Knife] || 16.7 || 2.0 || 44 ||5 Stamina || - || Vendor in Duskwood/Hillsbrad || 2 Gold 83 Silver 71 Copper
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3864 Daring Dirk] || 17.5 || 1.6 || 37 || 5 Agi || - || Vendor in Dustwallow Marsh / Stranglethorn Vale || 2 Gold 88 Silver 25 Copper 3 Gold 20 Silver 28 Copper
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3900 Claw of the Shadowmancer] || 20.5 || 1.9 || - || 2 Int || 35 damage shadobolt || rare world drop ||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9007 Toxic Revenger] || 20.5 || 1.9 || - || - || 5 second 5DPS PBAoE || Vicious Fallout in [[Gnomeregan]]|| Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11965 Torturing Poker] || 21.2 || 1.7 || - || - || +5-7 fire damage per hit || Interrogator Vishas in the [[Scarlet Monastery]] || -
|}

==Levels 30-39==
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior Daggers level 30-39
| Name || DPS || Speed || Avg Damage || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3801 Swinetusk Shank] || 23 || 1.50 || 34||6 Sta 4 Spi || -||[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=7340 Agathelos the Raging] in [[Razorfen Kraul]]||-
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=10293 Howling Blade] || 23.9 || 1.40 || 33.5 ||- || Reduces targets' attack power by 30 for 30 seconds || [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=16403 Skhowl], a random spawn Yeti in Alterac || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11705 Stonevault Shiv] || 24 || 1.50 ||36||7 Agi 3 Sta ||-||Various mobs in [[Uldaman]]|| -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=7970 Sliverblade] ||25 ||1.40 ||35||- || 45 frost damage || various mobs in [[Scarlet Monastery]] || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5045 The Ziggler] || 26.5|| 1.70|| 45||-||10-20 Nature damage||Random world drop||-
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4015 Hypnotic Blade] ||26.8 || 1.40 || 37.5 || 8 Int 3 Spi|| -|| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=18577 Arcanist Doan] in the Library section of the [[Scarlet Monastery]] || A nice caster weapon, don't be greedy :)
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3148 Black Menace] ||29.7|| 1.50 || 44.5 || - || 30 Shadow Damage || Quest reward from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1176 In the Name of the Light] quest in [[Scarlet Monastery]] || No reason not to get this one
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=12457 Coldrage Dagger] ||29.7|| 1.50||44.5||-||20-30 Frost damage with 5 second 50% snare || Drops from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=52566 Amnennar the Coldbringer] in [[Razorfen Downs]] || -
|}

==Levels 40-49==
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior+ Daggers level 40-49
| Name || DPS || Speed || Avg Dmg || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9247 Widowmaker]|| 31.6 || 1.90 || 60|| 8 Agi 7 Str || - || random world drop || Nice slow dagger - Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=19485 Gutwrencher] || 31.6 || 1.60 || 50.5 || - || bleed for 80 damage over 30 sec || unknown || Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=16256 Stealthblade] || 32.9 || 1.40 || 46|| - || Each hit reduces threat on all enemies || Random drop in [[The Temple of Atal'Hakkar]] || Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=19432 Satyr's Lash] || 33.2 || 1.70 || 56.5|| - || 55 to 85 Shadow damage || Drops from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=94101 Lord Vyletongue] in [[Maraudon]] || Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=8994 Gut Ripper] || 33.9 || 1.80 || 61 || - || Wounds for 95 - 121 || Random world drop? || Epic
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11935 Searing Needle] || 33.9 || 1.80 || 61 || - || 60 Fire damage and increase future fire damage by 10 || Random drop in [[Blackrock Depths]] || Would be fun to use with a fire mage around
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=18258 Hookfang Shanker] || 35.7 || 1.40 || 50 || - || 7 Nature damage every 3 sec and lowers target's armor by 50 for 30 sec || [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=18911 Hedrum the Creeper] in [[Blackrock Depths]] || Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3725 Lifeforce Dirk] || 35.9 || 1.60 || 57.5|| 11 Sta || - || Quest reward from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1090 The God Hakkar] quest in [[The Temple of Atal'Hakkar]] || Get this if you are still using the Black Menace

|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=19491 Charstone Dirk] || 35.9 || 1.60 || 57.5|| 11 Int || Restores 2 mana every 5 seconds || Drops from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=94206 Princess Theradras] in [[Maraudon]]|| Caster weapon
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=7245 Shadowblade] || 38.9 || 1.40 || 54.5|| - || 110 - 140 shadow damage || Random world drop || Unique Epic

|}

== Levels 50-59==
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior+ Daggers level 50-59
| Name || DPS || Speed || Avg Damage || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=14900 Barman Shanker] || 36.5 || 2.00 || 73|| - || Target bleeds for 100 damage over 30 sec || Dropped by [http://www.thottbot.com/?n=Plugger%20Spazzring Plugger Spazzring] in [[Blackrock Depths]] || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4822 Julie's Dagger] || 36.5 || 1.30 || 47.5|| - || Heals wielder of 78 damage over 12 sec || Random drop, either world or in [[Blackrock Spire ]] || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?s=Dire+Nail+of+the Dire Nail of the XXX] || 36.7 || 1.50 || 55|| +7-8 for two stats, +5 shadow resist || - || Drops from the [http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?n=63732 Shade of Eranikus] in [[The Temple of Atal'Hakkar]] || Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3780 Keris of Zul'Serak] || 39.4 || 1.80 || 71|| - || 10 Nature damage every 2 sec and slows target's attack speed by 10% for 10 sec || Dropped by [http://www.thottbot.com/?n=War%20Master%20Voone War Master Voone] in [[Blackrock Spire ]] || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=24339 Bonescraper] || 40.7 || 1.40 || 57 || - || Equip: +30 Attack Power.|| Dropped by [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=197406 Baron Rivendare] in [[Stratholme]]||-
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=13374 Finkle's Skinner] || 41.2 || 1.30 || 53.5 || - || Skinning +10. +45 Attack Power when fighting Beasts. || Dropped by [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=23897 The Beast] in [[Blackrock Spire ]] || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=20684 Darrowspike] || 41.3 || 1.5 || 62 || - || Blasts a target for 90 Frost damage || [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=4937 The Lich, Ras Frostwhisper] || This quest can be obtained at level 60 and is the 6th in a quest line.
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=24405 Heartseeker] || 41.5 || 1.7 || 75.5 || 4 Strength || Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike by 1%. || Crafted || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=25618 Alcor's Sunrazor]||45.4||1.3||59|| +10 Fire Resistance || Chance on hit: Blasts a target for 75 to 105 Fire damage.|| Drop ||-
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=20470 Deathstriker] || 45.6 || 1.7 || 77.5 || - || Chance on hit: All attacks are guaranteed to land and will be critical strikes for the next 3 sec || Somewhere in Upper BRS? Perhaps Rend Blackhand || WoW! Epic
|}

Dagger guide

2005-01-18T18:40:28Z

FierebladE: Added Alcor's Sunrazor

==Levels 10-19==
There are an additional 11 daggers listed for levels 16-19. In this range we start to see the first blue items.

{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior Daggers level 10-19
| Name || DPS || Speed || Avg Dmg || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=1304 Blade of Cunning] ||6.7 || - || - || +1 Subtlety || - ||The appropriate quest can be obtained from the Rogue Trainer in the race specific level 1-10 areas. ||[[Gnome rogue spoiler]]
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=6726 Slicer Blade] || 8.7 || - || - || - || - || Westfall || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4914 Scrimshaw Dagger] || 8.9 || - || - || - || - || Quest || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=1875 Harpy Skinner] || 9.6 ||-||-||3 Agi|| - || Horde quest || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=6958 Venom Web Fang] || 9.7|| - || - || -|| 1 DPS poison|| drops in Duskwood || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=6970 Buzzer Blade]|| - ||-||-||-||-||Boss Sneed in The Deadmines ||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3058 Relic Blade] || 10 || - || -||3 Sta||- || Alliance quest in Darkshore || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?s=big+bronze+knife Big Bronze Knife] || 10 || - || - || 3 Sta || - || Crafted || aka BBK
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3066 Hook dagger of <stat>] || 10 || - || - || 3 X || - || - || [[hook daggers in DM]]
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3322 Spikelash]|| 11.1||- ||-||2 Agi 2 Str||-||-||-
|-
||[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3414 Tail Spike] || 11.1||- ||-||2 Agi 2 Str||-||-||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4652 Pearl-handled Dagger]||11.5 ||-||-||2 Agi 2 Sta|| -||Crafted||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=10328 Evocator's Blade]|| 15.3 || - || - || 4 Int 2 Spi|| -|| -||Caster blade
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=12802 Assassin's Blade] || 15.5 || - || - || +4 Agi +3 Str|| - || Drops from Archmage Arugal in Shadowfang keep || -
|}

==Levels 20-24==
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior Daggers level 20-24
| Name || DPS || Speed || Max Damage || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4561 Deadly Bronze Poniard]|| 12.8 || 1.8 || - || 4 Agility || - || crafted || -
|-
|Battle Knife of <stat> || 13.4 || 1.6 || - || random || - || random world drop || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5161 Wyvern Tailspike] || 13.6 || 1.8 || - || - || 2 DPS poison || Pridewing Patriarch in the Stonetalon Mountains || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9423 Naraxis Fang]|| 13.7 || 1.6 || - || - || 2DPS poison || Naraxis in eastern Duskwood || -
|-
|Cross Dagger of <stat> || 14.6 || 1.30 || - || random || - || random world drop||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9986 Flesh Piercer]|| 15.2 || 2.0 || - || - || 1DPS bleed || Hillsbrad Foothills || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5182 Blackfang]||16.3|| 1.5||-||-||-||random world drop||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11976 Doomspike] ||16.3 || 1.5 ||-||-||-||unknown||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11785 Prison Shank] || 16.7||1.8|| - || - ||- ||Bruegal Ironknuckle in the [[Stockades]]||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5663 Talon of Vultros]||16.7 ||2.0||-||-||-||named rare spawn Vulture in Westfall||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9688 Bite of Serra'kis] ||17.7 || 1.3|| -||-||-||Old Serra'kis in [[Blackfathom Deeps]]||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9472 Meteor Shard] || 18.3 || 1.8 || -||- || Firebolt|| Archmage Arugal in [[ShadowFang Keep]]||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/?i=4099 Blackvenom Blade] || 18.9 || 1.8 ||-||-||-||Rohh the Silent in eastern Redridge Mountains|| Rohn may be hard to find
|}

==Levels 25-29==
Past level 25 the number of useful daggers starts to drop off. There are 6 useful daggers in the 25-29 range.
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior Daggers level 25-29
| Name || DPS || Speed || Max Damage || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
| Honed Stilettos of <stat> ||15.7 || 1.4 || - || random || - || random world drop || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=6182 Broad Bladed Knife] || 16.7 || 2.0 || 44 ||5 Stamina || - || Vendor in Duskwood/Hillsbrad || 2 Gold 83 Silver 71 Copper
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3864 Daring Dirk] || 17.5 || 1.6 || 37 || 5 Agi || - || Vendor in Dustwallow Marsh / Stranglethorn Vale || 2 Gold 88 Silver 25 Copper 3 Gold 20 Silver 28 Copper
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3900 Claw of the Shadowmancer] || 20.5 || 1.9 || - || 2 Int || 35 damage shadobolt || rare world drop ||-
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9007 Toxic Revenger] || 20.5 || 1.9 || - || - || 5 second 5DPS PBAoE || Vicious Fallout in [[Gnomeregan]]|| Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11965 Torturing Poker] || 21.2 || 1.7 || - || - || +5-7 fire damage per hit || Interrogator Vishas in the [[Scarlet Monastery]] || -
|}

==Levels 30-39==
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior Daggers level 30-39
| Name || DPS || Speed || Avg Damage || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3801 Swinetusk Shank] || 23 || 1.50 || 34||6 Sta 4 Spi || -||[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=7340 Agathelos the Raging] in [[Razorfen Kraul]]||-
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=10293 Howling Blade] || 23.9 || 1.40 || 33.5 ||- || Reduces targets' attack power by 30 for 30 seconds || [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=16403 Skhowl], a random spawn Yeti in Alterac || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11705 Stonevault Shiv] || 24 || 1.50 ||36||7 Agi 3 Sta ||-||Various mobs in [[Uldaman]]|| -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=7970 Sliverblade] ||25 ||1.40 ||35||- || 45 frost damage || various mobs in [[Scarlet Monastery]] || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5045 The Ziggler] || 26.5|| 1.70|| 45||-||10-20 Nature damage||Random world drop||-
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4015 Hypnotic Blade] ||26.8 || 1.40 || 37.5 || 8 Int 3 Spi|| -|| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=18577 Arcanist Doan] in the Library section of the [[Scarlet Monastery]] || A nice caster weapon, don't be greedy :)
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3148 Black Menace] ||29.7|| 1.50 || 44.5 || - || 30 Shadow Damage || Quest reward from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1176 In the Name of the Light] quest in [[Scarlet Monastery]] || No reason not to get this one
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=12457 Coldrage Dagger] ||29.7|| 1.50||44.5||-||20-30 Frost damage with 5 second 50% snare || Drops from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=52566 Amnennar the Coldbringer] in [[Razorfen Downs]] || -
|}

==Levels 40-49==
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior+ Daggers level 40-49
| Name || DPS || Speed || Avg Dmg || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=9247 Widowmaker]|| 31.6 || 1.90 || 60|| 8 Agi 7 Str || - || random world drop || Nice slow dagger - Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=19485 Gutwrencher] || 31.6 || 1.60 || 50.5 || - || bleed for 80 damage over 30 sec || unknown || Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=16256 Stealthblade] || 32.9 || 1.40 || 46|| - || Each hit reduces threat on all enemies || Random drop in [[The Temple of Atal'Hakkar]] || Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=19432 Satyr's Lash] || 33.2 || 1.70 || 56.5|| - || 55 to 85 Shadow damage || Drops from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=94101 Lord Vyletongue] in [[Maraudon]] || Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=8994 Gut Ripper] || 33.9 || 1.80 || 61 || - || Wounds for 95 - 121 || Random world drop? || Epic
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11935 Searing Needle] || 33.9 || 1.80 || 61 || - || 60 Fire damage and increase future fire damage by 10 || Random drop in [[Blackrock Depths]] || Would be fun to use with a fire mage around
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=18258 Hookfang Shanker] || 35.7 || 1.40 || 50 || - || 7 Nature damage every 3 sec and lowers target's armor by 50 for 30 sec || [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=18911 Hedrum the Creeper] in [[Blackrock Depths]] || Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3725 Lifeforce Dirk] || 35.9 || 1.60 || 57.5|| 11 Sta || - || Quest reward from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1090 The God Hakkar] quest in [[The Temple of Atal'Hakkar]] || Get this if you are still using the Black Menace

|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=19491 Charstone Dirk] || 35.9 || 1.60 || 57.5|| 11 Int || Restores 2 mana every 5 seconds || Drops from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=94206 Princess Theradras] in [[Maraudon]]|| Caster weapon
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=7245 Shadowblade] || 38.9 || 1.40 || 54.5|| - || 110 - 140 shadow damage || Random world drop || Unique Epic

|}

== Levels 50-59==
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+ Superior+ Daggers level 50-59
| Name || DPS || Speed || Avg Damage || Stat bonus || proc||Source||Notes
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=14900 Barman Shanker] || 36.5 || 2.00 || 73|| - || Target bleeds for 100 damage over 30 sec || Dropped by [http://www.thottbot.com/?n=Plugger%20Spazzring Plugger Spazzring] in [[Blackrock Depths]] || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4822 Julie's Dagger] || 36.5 || 1.30 || 47.5|| - || Heals wielder of 78 damage over 12 sec || Random drop, either world or in [[Blackrock Spire ]] || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?s=Dire+Nail+of+the Dire Nail of the XXX] || 36.7 || 1.50 || 55|| +7-8 for two stats, +5 shadow resist || - || Drops from the [http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?n=63732 Shade of Eranikus] in [[The Temple of Atal'Hakkar]] || Unique
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3780 Keris of Zul'Serak] || 39.4 || 1.80 || 71|| - || 10 Nature damage every 2 sec and slows target's attack speed by 10% for 10 sec || Dropped by [http://www.thottbot.com/?n=War%20Master%20Voone War Master Voone] in [[Blackrock Spire ]] || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=13374 Finkle's Skinner] || 41.2 || 1.30 || 53.5 || - || Skinning +10. +45 Attack Power when fighting Beasts. || Dropped by [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?n=23897 The Beast] in [[Blackrock Spire ]] || -
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=20684 Darrowspike] || 41.3 || 1.5 || 62 || - || Blasts a target for 90 Frost damage || [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=4937 The Lich, Ras Frostwhisper] || This quest can be obtained at level 60 and is the 6th in a quest line.
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=24405 Heartseeker] || 41.5 || 1.7 || 75.5 || 4 Strength || Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike by 1%. || Crafted || -
|-
|[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=25618 Alcor's Sunrazor]||45.4||1.3||59|| +10 Fire Resistance || Chance on hit: Blasts a target for 75 to 105 Fire damage.|| Drop ||-
|-
| [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=20470 Deathstriker] || 45.6 || 1.7 || 77.5 || - || Chance on hit: All attacks are guaranteed to land and will be critical strikes for the next 3 sec || Somewhere in Upper BRS? Perhaps Rend Blackhand || WoW! Epic
|}

Blackrock Depths

2005-01-14T21:04:43Z

FierebladE: Fixed link

Blackrock Depths is accessible from either teh Burning Steppes or XXX.
== Quests ==

===Alliance===

50 (55) [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1031 Hurley Blackbreath] - This quest starts from Ragnar Thunderbrew in Kharanos. There is a quest from Enohar Thunderbrew in the Blasted Lands that sends you to Ragnar Thunderbrew to get this quest. The possible rewards are the two-hand axe [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=2944 Limb Cleaver] or the mace [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=2934 Swiftstrike Cudgel] plus 5 potions.

50 (56) [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1205 The Good Stuff] - This quest is obtained from Oralius in the Burning Steppes.
5800 XP

48 (56) [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1695 Incendius!] - This quest starts at Jalinda Sprig in the Burning Steppes. The possible quest rewards are the [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5158 Sunborne Cape], the leather [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5158 Nightfall Gloves], the mail [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5077 Crypt Demon Bracers], or the plate belt [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4969 Stalwart Clutch].

55 (58) [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1909 A Shred of Hope] - This quest may be obtained from Marshal Windsor in Blackrock Depths. The reward is 6200 XP only.

53 (59) [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1911 The Fate of the Kingdom] - This quest is obtained from King Magni Bronzebeard in Ironforge. The quest reward is 8050 XP only.

===Horde===
(52) KILL ON SIGHT: Dark Iron Dwarves Horde
Blackrock Depths WANTED
Badlands
2050-5100 XP

(54) KILL ON SIGHT: High Ranking Dark Iron Officials Horde
Blackrock Depths KILL ON SIGHT
Badlands
4350-5450 XP

54 The Last Element Horde
Blackrock Depths Shadowmage Vivian Lagrave
<Kargath Expeditionary Force>
Badlands
4350-5450 XP

55 Lost Thunderbrew Recipe Horde
Blackrock Depths Shadowmage Vivian Lagrave
<Kargath Expeditionary Force>
Badlands or x5 x5
5650 XP

(56) Disharmony of Fire Horde
Blackrock Depths Thunderheart
<Kargath Expeditionary Force>
Badlands or or or
7300 XP

(58) Operation: Death to Angerforge Horde
Blackrock Depths Warlord Goretooth
<Kargath Expeditionary Force>
Badlands
7750 XP

(58) The Rise of the Machines Horde
Blackrock Depths Lotwil Veriatus
Badlands or or or
6200 XP

58 The Rise of the Machines Horde
Blackrock Depths Lotwil Veriatus
Badlands or or or
6200 XP

(59) The Royal Rescue Horde
Blackrock Depths Thrall
<Warchief>
Orgrimmar
8050 XP

===Neutral===

59 (52) [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1230 Dark Iron Legacy] - This quest is obtained from Franclorn Forgewright in the Blackrock Depths instance.

(53) [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1051 Ribbly Screwspigot] - This quest is obtained from Yuka Screwspigot in the Burning Steppes. There is an optional precursor step given by Yorba Screwspigot in Steamwheedle Port in Tanaris. The possible rewards from this quest are leather [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=2939 Penance Spaulders], cloth [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=2923 Rancor Boots], or mail [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5147 Splintsteel Armor].

50 (55) [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=755 The Heart of the Mountain] - This quest is obtained from Maxwort Uberglint in the Burning Steppes. The reward is 5650 XP only.

== Bosses ==

== Item List ==
'''Cloth'''

'''Leather'''

'''Mail'''

'''Plate'''

'''Weapon/Shield/Ranged'''

'''Jewlery'''

'''Misc'''

== Walkthrough ==

Main Page

2005-01-07T18:28:29Z

FierebladE: Fixed link to First Aid

Welome to the Unofficial World of Warcraft Basin Wiki. Curious about what this is? How to use it?

Then check out the '''[[WikiFAQ]]'''

__TOC__

== General guides==
[[NewbieGuide]] 
[[PvP Class Guide]]

== Instance guides ==
First off why go to an instance at all? They are much more difficult than other areas of the game and you have much more risk than soloing. Pretty much they are just for loot and quests that give you loot.

Another point of view is that instances are the best place to experience group play. It can be very very fun to have a good group humming through an instance exploring and experiencing the adventure.

* [[Ragefire Chasm]] (10-16)
* [[Deadmines]] (18-24)
* [[Wailing Caverns]] (18-24)
* [[ShadowFang Keep]] (22-27)
* [[Blackfathom Deeps]] (25-30)
* [[Stockades]] (25-30)
* [[Razorfen Kraul]] (23-34)
* [[Gnomeregan]] (24-35)
* [[Scarlet Monastery]] (29-42)
* [[Razorfen Downs]] (33-42)
* [[Uldaman]] (35-47)
* [[Zul'farrak]] (38-48)
* [[Maraudon]] (40-51)
* [[The Temple of Atal'Hakkar]] (43-55)
* [[Blackrock Depths]] (48-59)
* [[Stratholme]] (55-62)
* [[Sholomance]] (57-62)
* [[Blackrock Spire]] (54-62)
* [[Onyxia's Lair]] (41-62)

== Classes ==
[[Druid]] 
[[Hunter]] 
[[Mage]] 
[[Paladin]] 
[[Priest]] 
[[Rogue]] 
[[Shaman]] 
[[Warlock]] 
[[Warrior]] 

== Races ==
[[Human]] 
[[Dwarves]] 
[[Gnomes]] 
[[Night Elves]] 
[[Orcs]] 
[[Trolls]] 
[[Tauren]] 
[[Undead]]

== Professions ==
[[Herbalism]] 
[[Mining]] 
[[Skinning]] 
[[Alchemy]] 
[[Blacksmithing]] 
[[Engineering]] 
[[Leatherworking]] 
[[Tailoring]] 
[[Enchanting]] 
[[Cooking]] 
[[Fishing]] 
[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/FirstAid First Aid] 

[[Beta Market Prices]]

== Basin guild information ==
Basin Members' [[Tradeskills on Stormrage]] (Normal) 
Basin Members' [[Tradeskills on Tichondrius]] (PvP) 

Malph's [http://www.aphasic.com/wow/guildexport/ Guild Data]

Classic (Tichondrius)

2005-01-07T18:23:39Z

FierebladE: Staark's Tradeskills

This is for info on Tichondrius (PvP) tradespeople in the Basin. Are you looking for [[Tradeskills on Stormrage]]?

Information about pricing can be found in the [[Beta Market Prices]] page.

Format: Forum name - Character name [Level]

=='''Professions'''==
 
==='''Alchemy'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Alchemy Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill171.html Allakhazam] 

Bloodfly – Darwin 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [85] 
Helmar – Helmar [204] 
Katmarie - Zarana [143] 
Malphigian – Malphul [260] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [176] 
Staarkhand – Staark [260] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Tongar - ortliebj [62] 

==='''Blacksmithing'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Blacksmithing Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill164.html Allakhazam] 

Champain - Champain 
Dan Solo - Danguinary 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
JcL – Jay 
Grrtr - LucidityAxel 
Sardaukar – Sardaukar 
Sjur – Sjur [225] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [120] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 

==='''Enchanting'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Enchanting Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill333.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [151] 
Nvvty [85] 
Mojoka [225] needs help into uldaman for further lvling

==='''Engineering'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Engineering Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill202.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Gnome Engineering---''' 
E.L.- Alita [260] 
Nvts – Nvts [255] 

'''---Goblin Engineering--- ''' 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [255] 
Baneon – Baneon [201] 

'''--- Undecided ---''' 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Elyvin – Diest [50] 
Threndor - Gorlax [80] 
Rick – Jakther [106] 

==='''Leatherworking'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Leatherworking Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill165.html Allakhazam] 

Caolle - Grok 
cjam - Slora [132] 
Drake – Drak [165] 
Dan Solo - Gungadan [135] 
Hasta – Hasta [281] dragonscale crafter 
Moridin - ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid [142] 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall - [1xx] 
Mashunit - Zogmash [63] 
Dezz - Blackavar [182] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [162] 

==='''Tailoring'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Tailoring Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill197.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Cathan – Cathan 
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [85] 
Dan Solo - Danperignon [130] 
Djhaigh – Stark [160] 
Elyvin – Diest [160] 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [125] 
Tharn - Divayth [110] 
Septra – Septra 
Dezz - Tish [105] 
Nvts - Nvtty [30]

== Collection skills==

==='''Herbalism'''===
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl 100 
Helmar – Helmar 
Katmarie - Zarana [150] 
Malphigian - Malphul [300] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon 
SpearStriker – Baroch [190] 
Staarkhand - Staark [300] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Woollybug - LadyBug 
Tongar - ortliebj [83] 

==='''Mining'''===
Baneon – Baneon [151] 
Champain – Champain [?] 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
E.L. – Alita [252] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Grrtr - LucidityAxel [?] 
JcL – Jay [?] 
Nekkid – Vandyll [?] 
Nvts – Nvts [250] 
Olon97 – Olona [229] 
Perith – perith [70] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon [?] 
Sardaukar - Sardaukar [?] 
Sheena – Sheena [183] 
Sjur – Sjur [242] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [126] 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [?] 
Terrik – Deadterrik [?] 
Threndor - Gorlax [75] 

==='''Skinning'''===
Caolle – Grok 
Cathan – Cathan 
cjam - Slora [174] 
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Dan Solo - Gungadan 
Drake – Drak [202] 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin – Ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid 165 
Olon97 – Olona [247] 
Perith – perith [122] 
Tharn - Divayth 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall [1xx] 
Sheena - Sheena [261] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [202] 

=='''Secondary Skills:'''==

==='''Cooking'''===
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [125] 
Katmarie - Zarana [104] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [150] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [115] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [297] 

==='''First Aid'''===
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [90] 
E.L.- Alita [221] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
Sheena – Sheena [237] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [105] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [~ 70, will have to look it up] 
Slikkrikk - Greynok [210] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [150] 
Sjur - Sjur [218] 
Staarkhand - Staark [265] 

==='''Fishing'''===
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [150] 
E.L.- Alita [163] 
Nvts – Nvts - [215] 
Olon97 – Olona [193] 
Sjur – Sjur [215] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [225] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [120] 
Brakken - Subaxion [212] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [235]

User:Staarkhand

2005-01-07T18:17:48Z

FierebladE: My rogue build thoughts

''Tichondrius:'' 
Staark - Troll/Rogue 
Prophetic - Tauren/Shaman 
Serpentis - Orc/Hunter 

Staark is moving towards a slight modificaiton of the popular [http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Ass/Sub_Builds Assasination/Sublety] build with cold blood, preparation, and as much seal fate as I can. My final build isn't set in stone, and I'll probably spend some time and gold at 60 to figure out what works best.

I'm not sure I can give up Imp SS, but I haven't tried without it, and 5/5 seal fate vs. 3/5 may change my mind. Also I believe that for PvP I'll want to change from 5/5 Master of Deception to 5/5 Camouflage, with my experience showing that speed is king.

For PvE I'm sticking with a sword/mace in mainhand with a weapon delay of at least 2.7. Dagger off hand is mainly for stats and applying poisons, so I prefer 1.4 monkey blades. Cheapshot to open, else garrote if I want to be able to pull a mob. Occasionally vs high AC mobs I'll open with a garrote + (immediate) 2pt rupture, since fights vs. even levels don't often last long enough to really justify a 3pt, definitely not 4.

For endgame PvP I will make an honest effort to move away from the FoTM stun build I'm currently employing and use Imp Ambush/Backstab with [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=14900 Barman Shanker], making extensive use of a weapon switch macro to load up a slow main hand (like everyone else I'll be looking for a [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=8407 Krol Blade]). This will let me use both approaches situationally. My talent build will only sacrifice Hemmorage vs. the classic stun build. Downside: I'll be looking for both of the most popular main hand weapons in the game - but I like PvE.

First Aid

2005-01-05T18:47:42Z

FierebladE: Formatting, eddited minor incorrections due to FA changes

First Aid is an awesome skill for every class. Tailoring is the only tradeskill that uses a large amount of cloth and if you aren't doing that trade skill, I highly recommend you pick up First Aid at lvl 5 when it becomes avaliable. First Aid lets you make 2 things - Bandages which act as quick and powerful heal over time and Anti Venom which removes poison effects.

Here is a listing of the bandages that you can make: [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=First%20Aid Bandage List] These can be used to both lessen downtime while leveling or as life savers since their timer is independent of the potion timer. You should be able to ask a guard in any of the main cities to find the First Aid trainer. Turn that dropped cloth into something good!

Details on the book to learn Expert [http://wow.allakhazam.com/item.html?witem=16084 here]

Artisan First Aid and Artisan level bandages are learned from: 
[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?m=5873 Doctor Gregory Victor] in Hammerfall, Arathi Highlands for Horde 
[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?m=7383 Doctor Gustaf VanHowzen] in Theramore Isle, Dustwallow Marsh for Alliance

First Aid

2005-01-05T17:46:01Z

FierebladE: Added Artisan info

First Aid is an awesome skill for every class. Tailoring is the only tradeskill that uses a large amount of cloth and if you aren't doing that trade skill, I highly recommend you pick up First Aid at lvl 5 when it becomes avaliable. First Aid lets you make 2 things - Bandages which act as quick and powerful heal over time and Anti Venom which removes poison effects.

Here is a listing of the bandages that you can make: [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=First%20Aid Bandage List] These can be used to both lessen downtime while leveling (since you can pop a bandage while you run to the next mob) or as life savers since their timer is independent of the potion timer. You should be able to ask a guard in any of the main cities to find the First Aid trainer. Turn that dropped cloth into something good!

Details on the book to learn Expert [http://wow.allakhazam.com/item.html?witem=16084 here]

Artisan First Aid and Artisan level bandages are learned from:
[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?m=5873 Doctor Gregory Victor] in Hammerfall, Arathi Highlands for Horde
[http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?m=7383 Doctor Gustaf VanHowzen] in Theramore Isle, Dustwallow Marsh for alliance

Cooking

2005-01-04T21:05:22Z

FierebladE: Added link to Fishing/Cooking summary

==Intro==
Cooking is an excellent tool for melee characters to reduce downtime and provide moderate duration buffs. While it might be overlooked by mana-centric classes, no one who stands on the front lines should fail to consider it. Hungry pets eating you out of house and home? Look no farther. As a secondary profession it won't interfere with your other trade skills, and is the perfect complement to fishing. 

[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Fishing_recipes_summary Fishing/Cooking Recipe Summary]

==Apprentise==
To start your career as a chef, talk to a cooking trainer located in any major city. Press "P", find your cooking icon, and if you have the ingredients you can cook at any fire. I never carry flint, tinder, or wood, as inventory space will always be at a premium - there are plenty of fires in any town, and even field cooking using fires in mobs' camps is highly feasible. You will learn a few recipes that use random drops from beasts near your level, but to really get started I recommend cooking in conjuction with fishing. Buy a recipe for brilliant smallfish and head to a noob fishing hole ([http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Fishing#Tools_of_the_Trade:_Tips_and_Tricks as described here]). I start all my horde cooks at Bloodhoof Village in Mulgore, which has a fishing trainer (west of town by the lake), cooking trainer, a vendor who sells the first several freshwater fish recipes, and a lake which provides lots of brillant smallfish and longjaw mud snappers.
==Journeyman==
Journeyman trainers are plentiful, so grab this tier (as well as any additional recipes you think may be useful) and press on. If you're fishing you should have a good supply of longjaw mud snappers to jump-start your skill through most of Journeyman. Mix in meat drops from mobs, and finish it off with some [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=845 bristle whisker catfish](for horde, recipe is in ratchet and TB).
==Expert==
An Expert Cookbook may be purchased from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?m=11931 Wulan in Desolace] or [http://i6.thottbot.com/m/b/2909.jpg Shandrina in Ashenvale]. Since you probably blew through apprentise and journeyman fairly quickly, this is where you'll slow down and decide your own path to culinary excellence. Many recipes start at 175 cooking skill, meaning 150-175 is about the slowest time in your career. For fishermen I recommend sticking with bristle whisker catfish which can be fished about 65% of the time from freshwater in Ashenvale. Horde characters should leave Orgrimmar via the barrens exit, cross the bridge then immediately turn right and follow the river up a bit. Also try to get your hands on some tangy clam meat (from sea fishing, Ratchet docks are a favorite for horde), which will power you to 175 as well as privide a nice stam/spirit buff. Once you've hit 175, a whole new world of recipes opens up, including several different kinds of fish. If you quest in Arathi, pick up all that raptor meat and turn it into roast raptor. Personally, once I hit 175 I made 225 about 10 mintues later from all the recipes and meats I had saved.
==Artisan==
At level 40 and 225 cooking, the cooking trainer in your major city will tell you to go to Gadgetzan to begin [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=829 the artisan cooking quest]. It's simply a treasure hunt for ingredients. Zesty clam meat comes from big-mouth clams, which drop readily from murlocs in Swamp of Sorrows and nagas in Feralas, all low 40's mobs (or the spitelashes in Azshara if you're a late bloomer, i.e. ~lvl 45). Giant eggs drop from the roc's in Tanaris, or the owlbeasts in Hinterlands (horde should pick up the [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1541 Natural Materials] quest in Feralas before heading there). Alterac Swiss is bought [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=Alterac%20Swiss from NPCs] (innkeeper in 1k needles for horde). Bon appetite!

Fishing

2005-01-04T18:42:37Z

FierebladE: Added link to fishing recipe summary

==Intro==
Hello: a couple small things about fishing, it's a secondary profession so it is not lvl capped.
Fishing is a great skill to make some early cash and combined with cooking you have easy access to ingredients to make, for instance, boiled clams that give a spirit/stamina bonus over 15 mins.
The loot is useful for early tailors and leatherworkers that haven't come across a skinner yet as well; i caught loads of leather and cloth.
On a higher fishing lvl you will be able to catch locked chests that contain nice magical items but you need a Rogue or a fairly high Blacksmith to open these chests with lockpicking/skeleton keys.
There is a little melee benefit as well: your fishing skill works towards your melee rating (this is not capped to your lvl) so with a high damage fishing pole (one exists for a lvl 5 - strong fishingpole) you can whack monsters a lot higher then your own lvl to gain quick exp while hitting them with almost every hit.

[[List of catches by fishing hole]] 
[[Fishing recipes summary]]

==Apprentice: Getting Started==

Fishermen can be found in many low level areas to teach you Apprentise Fishing. Nearby there should also be a fishing vendor, who will sell you a pole (required) and some lures (recommended, at least at first). Purchase the basic pole and the lowest level lures. There should be water nearby, so go ahead and pick a spot on the shore right by the water. Now, equip your pole like a 2h weapon. Pressing 'P' will allow you to put your new 'Fishing' icon on your toolbar. Since you're currently a terrible fisher, right-click on your lure, then click on your equipped pole. Lures are limited in duration, so don't apply it until you're ready to get down to some serious fishing. Near the water's edge, pressing the fishing icon on your toolbar will cause to you cast. A timer will begin counting down, but you'll want to be watching the bobber - I put my cursur on it immediately. When you see it bob and splash, right-click ('open') on the bobber and your fish/loot will be there - unless it gets away. Take your reward and repeat.

==Journeyman: Continuing Your Career==

Your skill will raise quickly at first, and you'll soon outgrow your humble newbie hole. Journeymen Trainers are common as well. Be sure and purchase a "Strong" fishing pole if you haven't already, and look for a more difficult area. The difficulty and reward of different fishing areas is proportional to the level of the mobs around it - you'll also learn to gage difficulty based on the level of loot you're pulling in and the number of failed fishing attempts. For the Horde, Orgrimmar or the Ratchet docks are great places to skill up to 150. Continue to use appropiate lures if you're getting too many failures - I find, however, that one rarely need use anything more expensive than nightcrawlers.

==Expert: Angling for Fun and Profit (or not, post-nerf)==

Thottbot and various knowledge bases tell what trainers will teach you 'Expert' fishing - '''they are wrong, based on outdated info - ignore it!'''. Getting 'Expert' in secondary professions requires the purchase of a book, and fishing is no exception. Again, there is no level requirement, people may tell you you need level 20, but as of beta this was not the case. Old Man Hemming in Booty Bay sells an expert fishing book for 1g - he's on the south side, somewhat near the bank. On the Horde side, most people will catch the boat to Booty Bay after skilling up Journeyman in Ratchet - if you're short on cash for the book, just fish around the Bay until you have your 1g. Then don't leave, Booty Bay is one of the best fishing holes for raising expert fishing. At first you'll need to use lures to avoid too many escapees. Here you'll be pulling up crates and locked chests - these can be picked by any rogue with 90 lockpicking (perhaps less). Your skill increase will slow down, but you'll be catching more valuable items, like bolts of silk, engineering parts, and level 30+ items. Many feel that this is where the fisherman really hits his stride - in fact, one can fish very successfully in lvl 50+ zones with 225(+55) skill (strong pole + lure).

==Artisan: Zen and Art of Fishing==

Artisan secondary skills are obtained through quests. When you have reached 225 fishing and are at least level 40, the fishing trainer in Orgrimmar/Ironforge will tell you to find [http://www.thottbot.com/?q=1281 Nat Pagle, Angler Extreme], who is [http://www.thottbot.com/?m=7277 in Dustwallow Marsh]. The "rare" fish he wants you to catch actually have a rather high % (thottbot fishing %'s are skewed by fishing without the quest), so just make sure you're in the right zone/body of water and you should have them in no time. I found that with 225(+5) skill I was letting a lot of fish go, so it doesn't hurt to have some lures for this quest. (Anecdotally, after losing about 10 fish in Feralas I used a lure and got the quest fish on the first cast.)

==Tools of the Trade: Tips and Tricks==

I highly recommend the Tackle Box mod available in Cosmos (I have no experience with importing the stand alone mod to gypsy, etc) which allows you to cast by right-clicking on water when your pole is equipped (including recasting when you loot the bobber). I use this with shift+right click to autoloot and recast in one stroke. Try it once and you'll never go back.

If you plan to skill cooking in conjunction with fishing (why wouldn't you), I highly recommend starting fishing at a lake where you will catch a high percentage of brilliant smallfish. You can start off fishing in Orgrimmar, but it will take you forever to catch the 50+ smallfish required to get to 50 cooking for the next fishing recipe (15% catch rate - 330 to 350 catches!). FOR THE HORDE(!!) you will catch smallfish over 50% of the time in Stonebull Lake, Sen'jin Village, or Valley of Trials (for undead, nothing in Silverpine has a great %, so just use that zeppelin early). If you're already in Orgrimmar and don't want to walk far, thottbot shows that Jaggedswine Farm (outside by the zeppelin) might be a likely spot. Go to one of these spots, and you should catch enough fish to skill cooking through smallfish and mud snappers in one moderate session in about the time you'd raise your skill enough to want to move on.

Cooking

2005-01-04T18:34:24Z

FierebladE: Fishing-motivated cooking guide, somewhat horde biased

==Intro==
Cooking is an excellent tool for melee characters to reduce downtime and provide moderate duration buffs. While it might be overlooked by mana-centric classes, no one who stands on the front lines should fail to consider it. Hungry pets eating you out of house and home? Look no farther. As a secondary profession it won't interfere with your other trade skills, and is the perfect complement to fishing. 
==Apprentise==
To start your career as a chef, talk to a cooking trainer located in any major city. Press "P", find your cooking icon, and if you have the ingredients you can cook at any fire. I never carry flint, tinder, or wood, as inventory space will always be at a premium - there are plenty of fires in any town, and even field cooking using fires in mobs' camps is highly feasible. You will learn a few recipes that use random drops from beasts near your level, but to really get started I recommend cooking in conjuction with fishing. Buy a recipe for brilliant smallfish and head to a noob fishing hole ([http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Fishing#Tools_of_the_Trade:_Tips_and_Tricks as described here]). I start all my horde cooks at Bloodhoof Village in Mulgore, which has a fishing trainer (west of town by the lake), cooking trainer, a vendor who sells the first several freshwater fish recipes, and a lake which provides lots of brillant smallfish and longjaw mud snappers.
==Journeyman==
Journeyman trainers are plentiful, so grab this tier (as well as any additional recipes you think may be useful) and press on. If you're fishing you should have a good supply of longjaw mud snappers to jump-start your skill through most of Journeyman. Mix in meat drops from mobs, and finish it off with some [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=845 bristle whisker catfish](for horde, recipe is in ratchet and TB).
==Expert==
An Expert Cookbook may be purchased from [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?m=11931 Wulan in Desolace] or [http://i6.thottbot.com/m/b/2909.jpg Shandrina in Ashenvale]. Since you probably blew through apprentise and journeyman fairly quickly, this is where you'll slow down and decide your own path to culinary excellence. Many recipes start at 175 cooking skill, meaning 150-175 is about the slowest time in your career. For fishermen I recommend sticking with bristle whisker catfish which can be fished about 65% of the time from freshwater in Ashenvale. Horde characters should leave Orgrimmar via the barrens exit, cross the bridge then immediately turn right and follow the river up a bit. Also try to get your hands on some tangy clam meat (from sea fishing, Ratchet docks are a favorite for horde), which will power you to 175 as well as privide a nice stam/spirit buff. Once you've hit 175, a whole new world of recipes opens up, including several different kinds of fish. If you quest in Arathi, pick up all that raptor meat and turn it into roast raptor. Personally, once I hit 175 I made 225 about 10 mintues later from all the recipes and meats I had saved.
==Artisan==
At level 40 and 225 cooking, the cooking trainer in your major city will tell you to go to Gadgetzan to begin [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=829 the artisan cooking quest]. It's simply a treasure hunt for ingredients. Zesty clam meat comes from big-mouth clams, which drop readily from murlocs in Swamp of Sorrows and nagas in Feralas, all low 40's mobs (or the spitelashes in Azshara if you're a late bloomer, i.e. ~lvl 45). Giant eggs drop from the roc's in Tanaris, or the owlbeasts in Hinterlands (horde should pick up the [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=1541 Natural Materials] quest in Feralas before heading there). Alterac Swiss is bought [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=Alterac%20Swiss from NPCs] (innkeeper in 1k needles for horde). Bon appetite!

Classic (Tichondrius)

2005-01-04T16:15:42Z

FierebladE: Updated Staark's skills

This is for info on Tichondrius (PvP) tradespeople in the Basin. Are you looking for [[Tradeskills on Stormrage]]?

Information about pricing can be found in the [[Beta Market Prices]] page.

Format: Forum name - Character name [Level]

=='''Professions'''==
 
==='''Alchemy'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Alchemy Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill171.html Allakhazam] 

Bloodfly – Darwin 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [85] 
Helmar – Helmar [204] 
Katmarie - Zarana [143] 
Malphigian – Malphul [260] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [176] 
Staarkhand – Staark [260] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Tongar - ortliebj [62] 

==='''Blacksmithing'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Blacksmithing Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill164.html Allakhazam] 

Champain - Champain 
Dan Solo - Danguinary 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
JcL – Jay 
Grrtr - LucidityAxel 
Sardaukar – Sardaukar 
Sjur – Sjur [225] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [120] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 

==='''Enchanting'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Enchanting Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill333.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [151] 
Nvvty [75]

==='''Engineering'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Engineering Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill202.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Gnome Engineering---''' 
E.L.- Alita [260] 
Nvts – Nvts [227] 

'''---Goblin Engineering--- ''' 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [255] 
Baneon – Baneon [201] 

'''--- Undecided ---''' 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Elyvin – Diest [50] 
Threndor - Gorlax [80] 
Rick – Jakther [106] 

==='''Leatherworking'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Leatherworking Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill165.html Allakhazam] 

Caolle - Grok 
cjam - Slora [132] 
Drake – Drak [165] 
Dan Solo - Gungadan [135] 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin - ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid [142] 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall - [1xx] 
Mashunit - Zogmash [63] 
Dezz - Blackavar [182] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [162] 

==='''Tailoring'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Tailoring Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill197.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Cathan – Cathan 
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [85] 
Dan Solo - Danperignon [130] 
Djhaigh – Stark [160] 
Elyvin – Diest [160] 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [125] 
Tharn - Divayth [110] 
Septra – Septra 
Dezz - Tish [105] 

== Collection skills==

==='''Herbalism'''===
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl 100 
Helmar – Helmar 
Katmarie - Zarana [150] 
Malphigian - Malphul [300] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon 
SpearStriker – Baroch [190] 
Staarkhand - Staark [300] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Woollybug - LadyBug 
Tongar - ortliebj [83] 

==='''Mining'''===
Baneon – Baneon [151] 
Champain – Champain [?] 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
E.L. – Alita [252] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Grrtr - LucidityAxel [?] 
JcL – Jay [?] 
Nekkid – Vandyll [?] 
Nvts – Nvts [235] 
Olon97 – Olona [229] 
Perith – perith [70] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon [?] 
Sardaukar - Sardaukar [?] 
Sheena – Sheena [183] 
Sjur – Sjur [242] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [126] 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [?] 
Terrik – Deadterrik [?] 
Threndor - Gorlax [75] 

==='''Skinning'''===
Caolle – Grok 
Cathan – Cathan 
cjam - Slora [174] 
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Dan Solo - Gungadan 
Drake – Drak [202] 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin – Ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid 165 
Olon97 – Olona [247] 
Perith – perith [122] 
Tharn - Divayth 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall [1xx] 
Sheena - Sheena [261] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [202] 

=='''Secondary Skills:'''==

==='''Cooking'''===
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [125] 
Katmarie - Zarana [104] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [150] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [115] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [275] 

==='''First Aid'''===
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [90] 
E.L.- Alita [221] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
Sheena – Sheena [237] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [105] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [~ 70, will have to look it up] 
Slikkrikk - Greynok [210] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [150] 
Sjur - Sjur [218] 
Staarkhand - Staark [255] 

==='''Fishing'''===
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [150] 
E.L.- Alita [163] 
Nvts – Nvts - [215] 
Olon97 – Olona [193] 
Sjur – Sjur [215] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [225] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [120] 
Brakken - Subaxion [212] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [231]

Fishing

2005-01-03T23:56:48Z

FierebladE: Updated Artisan Info/Tips and Tricks section/Formatting

==Intro==
Hello: a couple small things about fishing, it's a secondary profession so it is not lvl capped.
Fishing is a great skill to make some early cash and combined with cooking you have easy access to ingredients to make, for instance, boiled clams that give a spirit/stamina bonus over 15 mins.
The loot is useful for early tailors and leatherworkers that haven't come across a skinner yet as well; i caught loads of leather and cloth.
On a higher fishing lvl you will be able to catch locked chests that contain nice magical items but you need a Rogue or a fairly high Blacksmith to open these chests with lockpicking/skeleton keys.
There is a little melee benefit as well: your fishing skill works towards your melee rating (this is not capped to your lvl) so with a high damage fishing pole (one exists for a lvl 5 - strong fishingpole) you can whack monsters a lot higher then your own lvl to gain quick exp while hitting them with almost every hit.

[[List of catches by fishing hole]]

==Apprentice: Getting Started==

Fishermen can be found in many low level areas to teach you Apprentise Fishing. Nearby there should also be a fishing vendor, who will sell you a pole (required) and some lures (recommended, at least at first). Purchase the basic pole and the lowest level lures. There should be water nearby, so go ahead and pick a spot on the shore right by the water. Now, equip your pole like a 2h weapon. Pressing 'P' will allow you to put your new 'Fishing' icon on your toolbar. Since you're currently a terrible fisher, right-click on your lure, then click on your equipped pole. Lures are limited in duration, so don't apply it until you're ready to get down to some serious fishing. Near the water's edge, pressing the fishing icon on your toolbar will cause to you cast. A timer will begin counting down, but you'll want to be watching the bobber - I put my cursur on it immediately. When you see it bob and splash, right-click ('open') on the bobber and your fish/loot will be there - unless it gets away. Take your reward and repeat.

==Journeyman: Continuing Your Career==

Your skill will raise quickly at first, and you'll soon outgrow your humble newbie hole. Journeymen Trainers are common as well. Be sure and purchase a "Strong" fishing pole if you haven't already, and look for a more difficult area. The difficulty and reward of different fishing areas is proportional to the level of the mobs around it - you'll also learn to gage difficulty based on the level of loot you're pulling in and the number of failed fishing attempts. For the Horde, Orgrimmar or the Ratchet docks are great places to skill up to 150. Continue to use appropiate lures if you're getting too many failures - I find, however, that one rarely need use anything more expensive than nightcrawlers.

==Expert: Angling for Fun and Profit (or not, post-nerf)==

Thottbot and various knowledge bases tell what trainers will teach you 'Expert' fishing - '''they are wrong, based on outdated info - ignore it!'''. Getting 'Expert' in secondary professions requires the purchase of a book, and fishing is no exception. Again, there is no level requirement, people may tell you you need level 20, but as of beta this was not the case. Old Man Hemming in Booty Bay sells an expert fishing book for 1g - he's on the south side, somewhat near the bank. On the Horde side, most people will catch the boat to Booty Bay after skilling up Journeyman in Ratchet - if you're short on cash for the book, just fish around the Bay until you have your 1g. Then don't leave, Booty Bay is one of the best fishing holes for raising expert fishing. At first you'll need to use lures to avoid too many escapees. Here you'll be pulling up crates and locked chests - these can be picked by any rogue with 90 lockpicking (perhaps less). Your skill increase will slow down, but you'll be catching more valuable items, like bolts of silk, engineering parts, and level 30+ items. Many feel that this is where the fisherman really hits his stride - in fact, one can fish very successfully in lvl 50+ zones with 225(+55) skill (strong pole + lure).

==Artisan: Zen and Art of Fishing==

Artisan secondary skills are obtained through quests. When you have reached 225 fishing and are at least level 40, the fishing trainer in Orgrimmar/Ironforge will tell you to find [http://www.thottbot.com/?q=1281 Nat Pagle, Angler Extreme], who is [http://www.thottbot.com/?m=7277 in Dustwallow Marsh]. The "rare" fish he wants you to catch actually have a rather high % (thottbot fishing %'s are skewed by fishing without the quest), so just make sure you're in the right zone/body of water and you should have them in no time. I found that with 225(+5) skill I was letting a lot of fish go, so it doesn't hurt to have some lures for this quest. (Anecdotally, after losing about 10 fish in Feralas I used a lure and got the quest fish on the first cast.)

==Tools of the Trade: Tips and Tricks==

I highly recommend the Tackle Box mod available in Cosmos (I have no experience with importing the stand alone mod to gypsy, etc) which allows you to cast by right-clicking on water when your pole is equipped (including recasting when you loot the bobber). I use this with shift+right click to autoloot and recast in one stroke. Try it once and you'll never go back.

If you plan to skill cooking in conjunction with fishing (why wouldn't you), I highly recommend starting fishing at a lake where you will catch a high percentage of brilliant smallfish. You can start off fishing in Orgrimmar, but it will take you forever to catch the 50+ smallfish required to get to 50 cooking for the next fishing recipe (15% catch rate - 330 to 350 catches!). FOR THE HORDE(!!) you will catch smallfish over 50% of the time in Stonebull Lake, Sen'jin Village, or Valley of Trials (for undead, nothing in Silverpine has a great %, so just use that zeppelin early). If you're already in Orgrimmar and don't want to walk far, thottbot shows that Jaggedswine Farm (outside by the zeppelin) might be a likely spot. Go to one of these spots, and you should catch enough fish to skill cooking through smallfish and mud snappers in one moderate session in about the time you'd raise your skill enough to want to move on.

Rogue Utility Abilties

2005-01-03T21:44:22Z

FierebladE: Added additional rank, level, and descriptive info

==Crowd Control Abilities==
===Sap===
Mezz effect. Must be stealthed. Only works on Humanoids that are not in combat. Only 1 target may be sapped at a time. 

Rank 1 (lvl 10): 25 seconds 
Rank 2 (lvl 28): 35 seconds 
Rank 3 (lvl 48): 45 seconds

===Kick===
Interrupts spellcasting, and prevents any spell in that school from being cast for 5 sec. Insta-cast, use anytime, 10 second cooldown. 
Damage: 
Rank 1 (lvl 12): 15 
Rank 2 (lvl 26): 30 
Rank 3 (lvl 42): 45 
Rank 4 (lvl 58): 80 
===Blind===
Blinds the target, causing it to wander at 40% of move speed confused for up to 10 sec. Any damage caused will remove the effect. Obtained at lvl 34, requires a reagent, Blinding Power, which can be made 3:1 from Fadeleaf using the poison skill. 

==Defensive Abilties==
===Evasion===
The rogue's dodge chance will increase by 50% for 15 sec. Insta-cast, 5 min cooldown.
===Sprint===
Lasts 15 sec, usable while stealthed. 
Increase speed by: 
Rank 1 (lvl 10): 50% 
Rank 2 (lvl 34): 60% 
Rank 3 (lvl 58): 70%
===Feint=== - Reduced aggro for one target.
===Parry=== - Passively stops a percentage of incoming attacks from dealing any damage.
===Vanish=== - Instant stealth.
===Dodge=== - Stops a percentage of incoming attacks from dealing any damage.

==Other Utility Abilities==
===Stealth=== - Allows a Rogue to move with a chance of being unseen.
===Pick Pocket=== - Allows a rogue to get an extra loot roll on a mob.
===Pick Lock=== - Allows a Rogue to open a locked item.
===Distract=== - Causes a mob to turn to face a direction of the Rogue's choice.
===Detect Traps=== - Hidden traps will become visible for 3 min. Obtained at lvl 24.
===Disarm Trap=== - Obtained at lvl 30.

Rogue Utility Abilties

2005-01-03T20:02:56Z

FierebladE: Added ranks

Rogue Damage Abilties

2005-01-03T19:55:24Z

FierebladE: Formatting

== Stealth Openers ==
=== Ambush ===
Requirement: Rogue must be Stealthed, main hand wielding a Dagger and behind the target. 
Combo points: One 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: 2.5 times weapon damage plus a fixed value depending on the rank of Ambush as follows: 

Level 18: Rank 1: 70 
Level 26: Rank 2: 100 
Level 34: Rank 3: 125 
Level 42: Rank 4: 185 
Level 50: Rank 5: 230 
Level 58: Rank 6: 290 

===Garrote===
Requirement: Rogue must be Stealthed and behind the target. 
Combo points: One 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: A fixed amount of damage depending on the rank of Garrote spread over 18 seconds as follows: 

Level 14: Rank 1: 108 
Level 22: Rank 2: 162 
Level 30: Rank 3: 222 
Level 38: Rank 4: 282 
Level 46: Rank 5: 348 
Level 54: Rank 6: 438 

(Note: DoT damage is not reduced by armor.) 

===Cheap Shot===
Requirement: Rogue must be Stealthed. 
Combo points: Two 
Additional effects: This ability causes the target to be stunned for four (4) seconds. 
Damage: None 

== Anytime Attacks ==
===Sinister Strike===
Requirement: None. 
Combo points: One 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: Weapon damage plus a fixed amount that depends on the Rogue's Sinister Strike skill rank as follows: 

Rank 1: ? 
Rank 2: 6 
Rank 3: 10 
Rank 4: 15 
Rank 5: 22 
Rank 6: 33 
Rank 7: 52 
Rank 8: 68

===Backstab===
Requirement: The rogue must be positioned behind his target and be wielding a Dagger. 
Combo points: One 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: 1.5 times weapon damage plus a fixed amount that depends on the Rogue's Backstab skill rank as follows: 

Rank 1: 15 
Rank 2: 30 
Rank 3: 48 
Rank 4: 69 
Rank 5: 90 
Rank 6: 135 
Rank 7: 165 
Rank 8: 210

===Gouge===
Requirement: The target must be facing the Rogue.
Combo points: one
Additional effects: The Rogue stops combat and the target is mezzed for 4 seconds. 10 second cooldown on ability. 
Damage: Per following table: 

Rank 1: 10 
Rank 2: 20 
Rank 3: 32 
Rank 4: 55 
Rank 5: 75

===Hemmorrhage===
Requirements: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon. 
Combo points: One 
Additional effects: Recipient of the effect takes additional physical damage from physical attacks for the next 30 seconds per the following table:

Rank 1: 3 extra 
Rank 2: 5 extra 
Rank 3: 7 extra 

== Finishing Attacks ==
===Eviscerate===
Requirement: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon. 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: A random amount that depends upon the rank of the Eviscerate skill as follows:

Level 1: Rank 1: ?? - ?? + ?? per combo point 
Level 8: Rank 2: 3 - 11 + 13 per combo point 
Level 16: Rank 3: 6 - 23 + 23 per combo point 
Level 24: Rank 4: 10 - 30 + 37 per combo point 
Level 32: Rank 5: 14 - 45 + 54 per combo point 
Level 40: Rank 6: 22 - 66 + 82 per combo point 
Level 48: Rank 7: 34 - 102 + 124 per combo point 
Level 56: Rank 8: 48 - 144 + 168 per combo point

===Slice and Dice===
Requirement: None 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: Increased attack speed for 6 + 3 per combo point seconds. Rank 1 gives 20% increased speed, Rank 2 gives 30% increased speed. 
Damage: None 

Rank 1 is obtained at level 10. 
Rank 2 is obtained at level 42.

===Expose Armor===
Requirement: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon. 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: Reduces the target's armor by an amount that varies by the Rank used for 30 seconds. Does not stack with Warrior armor reduction ability. 
Damage: None 

Level 14: Rank 1: 80 * combo points 
Level 26: Rank 2: 145 * combo points 
Level 36: Rank 3: 210 * combo points 
Level 46: Rank 4: 275 * combo points 
Level 56: Rank 5: 340 * combo points 

===Rupture===
Requirement: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon. 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: Damage over time for a fixed DPS per rank that lasts longer depending on the number of combo points. Duration equals 2 + 4 per combo point seconds. Total damage equals duration times DPS.

Level 20: Rank 1: 7.5 DPS 
Level 28: Rank 2: 11.5 DPS 
Level 36: Rank 3: 16 DPS 
Level 44: Rank 4: 22 DPS 
Level 52: Rank 5: 31 DPS 
Level 60: Rank 6: 42.5 DPS 

Remember that the damage from DOT attacks isn't reduced by the opponents armor, so while this may look less effective than Eviscerate, it becomes more powerful against high-armor (and high-life) enemies. 

===Kidney Shot===
Requirement: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon. 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: Stuns the target for 1 second per combo point. Rank 2 adds an additional second of stun. 
Damage: None 

Rank 1 is obtained at level 30. 
Rank 2 is obtained at level 50.

== Other Damage ==
===Dual Wield===
Requirement: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon in the left hand. 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: Both hands chance to hit is reduced by 24%. 
Damage: Off hand weapon does 1/2 of its normal damage. 

===Instant Poison===
===Crippling Poison===
===Mind numbing Poison===
===Deadly Poison===

Rogue Damage Abilties

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== Stealth Openers ==
=== Ambush ===
Requirement: Rogue must be Stealthed, main hand wielding a Dagger and behind the target. 
Combo points: One 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: 2.5 times weapon damage plus a fixed value depending on the rank of Ambush as follows: 

Level 18: Rank 1: 70 
Level 26: Rank 2: 100 
Level 34: Rank 3: 125 
Level 42: Rank 4: 185 
Level 50: Rank 5: 230 
Level 58: Rank 6: 290 

===Garrote===
Requirement: Rogue must be Stealthed and behind the target. 
Combo points: One 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: A fixed amount of damage depending on the rank of Garrote spread over 18 seconds as follows: 

Level 14: Rank 1: 108 
Level 22: Rank 2: 162 
Level 30: Rank 3: 222 
Level 38: Rank 4: 282 
Level 46: Rank 5: 348 
Level 54: Rank 6: 438 

(Note: DoT damage is not reduced by armor.) 

===Cheap Shot===
Requirement: Rogue must be Stealthed. 
Combo points: Two 
Additional effects: This ability causes the target to be stunned for four (4) seconds. 
Damage: None 

== Anytime Attacks ==
===Sinister Strike===
Requirement: None. 
Combo points: One 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: Weapon damage plus a fixed amount that depends on the Rogue's Sinister Strike skill rank as follows: 

Rank 1: ? 
Rank 2: 6 
Rank 3: 10 
Rank 4: 15 
Rank 5: 22 
Rank 6: 33 
Rank 7: 52 
Rank 8: 68

===Backstab===
Requirement: The rogue must be positioned behind his target and be wielding a Dagger. 
Combo points: One 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: 1.5 times weapon damage plus a fixed amount that depends on the Rogue's Backstab skill rank as follows: 

Rank 1: 15 
Rank 2: 30 
Rank 3: 48 
Rank 4: 69 
Rank 5: 90 
Rank 6: 135 
Rank 7: 165 
Rank 8: 210

===Gouge===
Requirement: The target must be facing the Rogue.
Combo points: one
Additional effects: The Rogue stops combat and the target is mezzed for 4 seconds. 10 second cooldown on ability. 
Damage: Per following table: 

Rank 1: 10 
Rank 2: 20 
Rank 3: 32 
Rank 4: 55 
Rank 5: 75

===Hemmorrhage===
Requirements: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon. 
Combo points: one
Additional effects: Recipient of the effect takes additional physical damage from physical attacks for the next 30 seconds per the following table:

Rank 1: ? extra 
Rank 2: 5 extra 
Rank 3: 7 extra 

== Finishing Attacks ==
===Eviscerate===
Requirement: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon. 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: A random amount that depends upon the rank of the Eviscerate skill as follows:

Level 1: Rank 1: ?? - ?? + ?? per combo point 
Level 8: Rank 2: 3 - 11 + 13 per combo point 
Level 16: Rank 3: 6 - 23 + 23 per combo point 
Level 24: Rank 4: 10 - 30 + 37 per combo point 
Level 32: Rank 5: 14 - 45 + 54 per combo point 
Level 40: Rank 6: 22 - 66 + 82 per combo point 
Level 48: Rank 7: 34 - 102 + 124 per combo point 
Level 56: Rank 8: 48 - 144 + 168 per combo point

===Slice and Dice===
Requirement: None 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: Increased attack speed for 6 + 3 per combo point seconds. Rank 1 gives 20% increased speed, Rank 2 gives 30% increased speed. 
Damage: None 

Rank 1 is obtained at level 10. 
Rank 2 is obtained at level 42.

===Expose Armor===
Requirement: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon. 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: Reduces the target's armor by an amount that varies by the Rank used for 30 seconds. Does not stack with Warrior armor reduction ability. 
Damage: None 

Level 14: Rank 1: 80 * combo points 
Level 26: Rank 2: 145 * combo points 
Level 36: Rank 3: 210 * combo points 
Level 46: Rank 4: 275 * combo points 
Level 56: Rank 5: 340 * combo points 

===Rupture===
Requirement: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon. 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: None 
Damage: Damage over time for a fixed DPS per rank that lasts longer depending on the number of combo points. Duration equals 2 + 4 per combo point seconds. Total damage equals duration times DPS.

Level 20: Rank 1: 7.5 DPS 
Level 28: Rank 2: 11.5 DPS 
Level 36: Rank 3: 16 DPS 
Level 44: Rank 4: 22 DPS 
Level 52: Rank 5: 31 DPS 
Level 60: Rank 6: 42.5 DPS 

Remember that the damage from DOT attacks isn't reduced by the opponents armor, so while this may look less effective than Eviscerate, it becomes more powerful against high-armor (and high-life) enemies. 

===Kidney Shot===
Requirement: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon. 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: Stuns the target for 1 second per combo point. Rank 2 adds an additional second of stun. 
Damage: None 

Rank 1 is obtained at level 30. 
Rank 2 is obtained at level 50.

== Other Damage ==
===Dual Wield===
Requirement: Rogue must be wielding a melee weapon in the left hand. 
Combo points: None 
Additional effects: Both hands chance to hit is reduced by 24%. 
Damage: Off hand weapon does 1/2 of its normal damage. 

===Instant Poison===
===Crippling Poison===
===Mind numbing Poison===
===Deadly Poison===

Classic (Tichondrius)

2005-01-03T17:12:14Z

FierebladE: Update Staark's tradeskills

This is for info on Tichondrius (PvP) tradespeople in the Basin. Are you looking for [[Tradeskills on Stormrage]]?

Information about pricing can be found in the [[Beta Market Prices]] page.

Format: Forum name - Character name [Level]

=='''Professions'''==
 
==='''Alchemy'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Alchemy Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill171.html Allakhazam] 

Bloodfly – Darwin 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [85] 
Helmar – Helmar [204] 
Katmarie - Zarana [143] 
Malphigian – Malphul [260] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [176] 
Staarkhand – Staark [254] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
ortliebj - Tongar [12] 

==='''Blacksmithing'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Blacksmithing Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill164.html Allakhazam] 

Champain - Champain 
Dan Solo - Danguinary 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
JcL – Jay 
Grrtr - LucidityAxel 
Sardaukar – Sardaukar 
Sjur – Sjur [225] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [120] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 

==='''Enchanting'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Enchanting Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill333.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [151] 
Nvvty [75]

==='''Engineering'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Engineering Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill202.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Gnome Engineering---''' 
E.L.- Alita [260] 
Nvts – Nvts [227] 

'''---Goblin Engineering--- ''' 
Baneon – Baneon [201] 

'''--- Undecided ---''' 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Elyvin – Diest [50] 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [?] 
Threndor - Gorlax [80] 
Rick – Jakther [106] 

==='''Leatherworking'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Leatherworking Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill165.html Allakhazam] 

Caolle - Grok 
cjam - Slora [132] 
Drake – Drak [165] 
Dan Solo - Gungadan [135] 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin - ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid [142] 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall - [1xx] 
Mashunit - Zogmash [63] 
Dezz - Blackavar [182] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [162] 

==='''Tailoring'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Tailoring Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill197.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Cathan – Cathan 
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [85] 
Dan Solo - Danperignon [130] 
Djhaigh – Stark [160] 
Elyvin – Diest [160] 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [125] 
Tharn - Divayth [110] 
Septra – Septra 
Dezz - Tish [105] 

== Collection skills==

==='''Herbalism'''===
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl 100 
Helmar – Helmar 
Katmarie - Zarana [150] 
Malphigian - Malphul [300] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon 
SpearStriker – Baroch [190] 
Staarkhand - Staark [300] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Woollybug - LadyBug 
ortliebj - Tongar [12] 

==='''Mining'''===
Baneon – Baneon [151] 
Champain – Champain [?] 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
E.L. – Alita [252] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Grrtr - LucidityAxel [?] 
JcL – Jay [?] 
Nekkid – Vandyll [?] 
Nvts – Nvts [235] 
Olon97 – Olona [229] 
Perith – perith [70] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon [?] 
Sardaukar - Sardaukar [?] 
Sheena – Sheena [183] 
Sjur – Sjur [242] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [126] 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [?] 
Terrik – Deadterrik [?] 
Threndor - Gorlax [75] 

==='''Skinning'''===
Caolle – Grok 
Cathan – Cathan 
cjam - Slora [174] 
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Dan Solo - Gungadan 
Drake – Drak [202] 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin – Ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid 165 
Olon97 – Olona [247] 
Perith – perith [122] 
Tharn - Divayth 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall [1xx] 
Sheena - Sheena [261] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [202] 

=='''Secondary Skills:'''==

==='''Cooking'''===
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [125] 
Katmarie - Zarana [104] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [150] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [115] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [255] 

==='''First Aid'''===
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [90] 
E.L.- Alita [221] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
Sheena – Sheena [237] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [105] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [~ 70, will have to look it up] 
Slikkrikk - Greynok [210] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [150] 
Sjur - Sjur [218] 
Staarkhand - Staark [240] 

==='''Fishing'''===
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [150] 
E.L.- Alita [163] 
Nvts – Nvts - [215] 
Olon97 – Olona [193] 
Sjur – Sjur [215] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [225] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [120] 
Brakken - Subaxion [212] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Staarkhand - Staark [231]

Beta Market Prices

2005-01-02T08:38:03Z

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=='''Trading for crafting items'''==

''I took the liberty of cut/pasting from a beta list posted and made by William, Hands of Elune, from the official forums, with information gathered from CB Alliance Auction Houses. I also copied the prices, even though drop rates etc. may have changed since that time, so feel free to post your observations from trading in the auction house. Tradevalue to be inserted first, sell value, (for beta), is listed to the right.

Regards
Sjur''

'''Metal'''

20 Copper Bars = 30-50 s (2 s)

20 Tin Bars = 30-50 s (7 s)

20 Bronze Bars = 30-60 s (10 s)

20 Silver Bars = 1.5-2 g (20 s)

20 Iron Bars = 1-1.5 g (40 s)

20 Gold Bars = 1.6-2 g (1.2 g)

20 Mithril Bars = 3-5 g (80 s)

20 Thorium Bars = 12-15 g (1.2 g)

1 Truesilver Bar = 50-100 s (12.5 s)

1 Dark Iron Ore = 1-1.5 g (5 s)

1 Dark Iron Bar = 10-12 g (6 s)

1 Enchanted Thorium Bar = 1-2 g (5 s)

1 Arcanite Bar = 20-30 g (50 s)

'''Stone: (20/stack)'''

20 Rough Stone = 5-10 s (40 c)

20 Coarse Stone = 40-50 s (3 s)

20 Heavy Stone = 30-40 s (12 s)

20 Solid Stone = 50-70 s (20 s)

20 Dense Stone = 1-2 g (50 s)

'''Gems'''

1 Malakite = 4-6 s (15 c)

1 Tigerseye = 4-6 s (1 s)

1 Shadowgem = 8-10 s (2.5 s)

1 Lesser Moonstones= 20-30 s (6 s)

1 Moss Agate = 25-30 s (4 s)

1 Jade = 20-25 s (7 s)

1 Citrine = 20-25 s (8 s)

1 Small Lustrous Pearl = 5-10 s (2 s)

1 Iridescent Pearl = 30-50 s (7.5 s)

1 Blue Pearl = 10-15 s (50 c)

1 Black Pearl = 50-100 s (10 s)

1 Golden Pearl = 2-5 g (1 g)

1 Aquamarine = 15-30 s (10 s)

1 Star Ruby = 60-90 s (50 s)

1 Black Vitriol = 50-80 s (10 s)

1 Large Opal = 1-1.5 g (70 s)

1 Huge Emerald = 1.5-2 g (1 g)

1 Blue Sapphire = 1-1.5 g (70 s)

1 Azerothian Diamond = 1.5-2.5 g (1 g)

1 Blue Power Crystal = 5-10 s (-)

1 Green Power Crystal = 5-10 s (-)

1 Red Power Crystal = 5-10 s (-)

1 Yellow Power Crystal = 5-10 s (-)

1 Arcane Crystal = 10-20 g (20 s)

'''Enchanting Reagents: (10/stack)'''

1 Strange Dust = 5-10 s (-)

1 Soul Dust = 10-15 s (-)

1 Vision Dust = 15-20 s (-)

1 Dream Dust = 30-40 s (-)

1 Illusion Dust = ? (-)

1 Lesser Magic Essence = 6-10 s (-)

1 Greater Magic Essence = 20-30 s (-)

1 Lesser Astral Essence = 25-30 s (-)

1 Greater Astral Essence = 50-100 s (-)

1 Lesser Mystic Essence = 50-60 s (-)

1 Greater Mystic Essence = 70-90 s (-)

1 Lesser Nether Essence = 90-100 s (-)

1 Greater Nether Essence = 2-3 g (-)

1 Lesser Eternal Essence = ? (-)

1 Greater Eternal Essence = ? (-)

1 Small Shimmering Shard = 25-50 s (-)

1 Large Shimmering Shard = 50-120 s (-)

1 Small Glimmering Shard = 25-50 s (-)

1 Large Glimmering Shard = 50-120 s (-)

1 Small Glowing Shard = 1-1.5 g (-)

1 Large Glowing Shard = 1-3 g (-)

1 Small Radiant Shard = 1-1.5 g (-)

1 Large Radiant Shard = 4-5 g (-)

1 Small Brilliant Shard = ? (-)

1 Large Brilliant Shard = ? (-)

'''Leathers'''

10 Light Leather = 10-15 s (1.5 s)

10 Thin Kodo Leather = 15-20 s (2.5 s)

10 Medium Leather = 20-40 s (5 s)

10 Heavy Leather = 40-60 s (15 s)

10 Thick Leather = 60-80 s (30 s)

10 Rugged Leather = 80-100 s (50 s)

10 Frostsaber Leather = 75-100 s (50 s)

1 Enchanted Leather = 1-1.5 g (?)

'''Hides: (5 raw hides/stack, 10 if cured)'''

5 Light Hides = 8-10 s (5.5 s)

5 Medium Hides = 20-30 s (10 s)

5 Heavy Hides = 30-40 s (11.25 s)

5 Thick Hides = 40-50 s (25 s)

5 Rugged Hides = 1-2 g (25 s)

5 Raptor Hides = 20-40 s (10.4 s)

5 Shadowcat Hides = 20-40 s (12.5 s)

5 Thick Wolfhides = 75-100 s (50 s)

'''Scales:'''

10 Slimy Murloc Scales = 15-25 s (7.5 s)

10 Deviate Scales = 30-50 s (12.5 s)

10 Scorpid Scale = 50-100 s (25 s)

10 Turtle Scale = 60-100 s (10 s)

10 Red Whelp Scale = 1-2 g (10 s)

10 Thick Murloc Scales = 1-2 g (10 s)

10 Green Whelp Scales = 1-1.5 g (20 s)

10 Naga Scales = 30-40 s (15 s)

10 Perfect Deviate Scales = 1-2 g (50 s)

10 Heavy Scorpid Scales = 75-100 s (50 s)

10 Dragonscales = 1-2 g (50 s)

10 Worn Dragonscales = 75-100 s (50 s)

10 Blue Dragonscales = 75-100 s (50 s)

10 Green dragonscales = 75-100 s (50 s)

10 Black Dragonscales = 1.5-2 g (1 g)

'''Cloth'''

20 Linen Cloth = 10-20 s (2.6 s)

20 Wool Cloth = 15-25 s (6.6 s)

20 Silk Cloth = 45-60 s (30 s)

20 Mageweave Cloth = 75-150 g (50 s)

20 Runecloth = 1.5-2 g (80 s)

1 Fellcloth = 3-5 g (20 s)

1 Mooncloth = 8-10 g (40 s)

'''Spider Silk: (10/stack):'''

10 Spider Silk = 1.5-2.5 g (38.7 s)

10 Thick Spider Silk = 1.5-2 g (75 s)

10 Shadow Silk = 1.5-2 g (1 g)

10 Ironweb Spider Silk = 10-12 g (2.5 g)

'''Feathers & Claws: (5/stack) :'''

5 Jet Black Feathers = 20-30 s (5 s)

5 Long Tail Feathers = 30-50 s (15.15 s)

5 Vibrant Plumes = 60-80 s (41.25 s)

5 Sharp Claws = 5-10 s (2.25 s)

5 Large Fangs = 50-75 s (3.75 s)

5 Wicket Claws = 50-75 s (25 s)

'''Herbs: (20/stack)'''

20 Silverleaf = 10-15 s (2 s)

20 Peacebloom = 10-15 s (2 s)

20 Earthroot = 15-20 s (4 s)

20 Briarthorn = 80-120 s (5 s)

20 Mageroyal = 40-60 s (4 s)

20 Grave Moss = 40-60 s (5 s)

20 Bruiseweed = 30-50 s (5 s)

20 Swiftthisle = 30-40 s (3 s)

20 Kingsblood = 50-100 s (6 s)

20 Stranglekelp = 1.5-2 g (20 s)

20 Wild Steelbloom = 3.5-4.5 g (10 s)

20 Liferoot = 40-80 s (15 s)

20 Fadeleaf = 40-80 s (25 s)

20 Firebloom = 75-100 s (50 s)

20 Purple Lotus = 80-100 s (60 s)

20 Goldthorn = 4-5 g (30 s)

20 Sungrass = 10-12 g (12 s)

20 Blindweed = 2-2.5 g (75 s)

20 Gromsblood = 10-15 g (50 s)

20 Khadgar's Whiskers = 12-15 g (35 s)

20 Wintersbite = 2-2.5 g (20 s)

20 Ghost Mushroom = 4-5 g (75 s)

20 Icecap = 1.8-2.4 g (50 s)

1 Arthas' Tears = 50-100 s (95 c)

1 Dreamfoil = 50-100 s (1 s)

1 Golden Sansam = 50-100 s (1 s)

1 Mountain Silversage = 50-100 s (1.5 s)

1 Plaguebloom = 50-100 s (2.5 s)

1 Wildvine = 1-2 g (5 c)

'''Fish: (20/stack)'''

20 Deviate Fish = 30-50 s (5 s)

20 Firefin Snapper = 1-2 g (5 s)

20 Oily Blackmouth = 1-2 g (5 s)

1 Raw Glossy Mightfish = 5-10 s (3 s)

1 Raw Summer Bass = 5-10 s (3.5 s)

1 Raw Nightfin Snapper = 5-10 s (80 c)

1 Raw Stonescale Eel = 40-60 s (2.5 s)

1 Raw Sunscale Salmon = 5-10 s (80 c)

1 Winter Squid = 5-10 s (3.5 s)

'''Sacs: (5/stack)'''

5 Small Venom Sacs = 5-15 s (4.1 s)

5 Large Venom Sacs = 20-40 s (9.25 s)

5 Small Flame Sacs = 50-80 s (12.5 s)

'''Elements: (10/stack)'''

1 Elemental Earth = 6-10 s (4 s)

1 Elemental Water = 6-10 s (4 s)

1 Elemental Fire = 6-10 s (4 s)

1 Elemental Air = 6-10 s (4 s)

1 Ichor of Undeath = 60-80 s (4 s)

1 Heart of the Wild = 8-12 s (4 s)

1 Core of Earth = 3-4 g (4 s)

1 Heart of Fire = 3-4 g (4 s)

1 Globe of Water = 2-3 g (4 s)

1 Breath of Wind = 4-6 g (4 s)

1 Blood of the Mountain = 3-4 g (7.5 s)

1 Wild Essence = 10-20 s (5 s)

1 Essence of Undeath = 15-30 s (10 s)

1 Essence of Water = 10-40 s (4 s)

1 Essence of Earth = 10-15 g (4 s)

1 Essence of Fire = 4-5 g (4 s)

1 Essence of Air = 4-5 g (4 s)

'''Misc. Items:'''

1 Fused Wiring = 1.5-2 g (-)

1 Flask of Mojo = 4-5 s (2.5 s)

1 Flask of Big Mojo = 8-10 s (5 s)

1 Powerful Mojo = 1-1.5 g (70 s)

1 Volatile Rum = 6-10 s (4 s)

1 Righteous Orb = 3-5 g (2 g)

1 Guardian Stone = 2-3 g (1 g)

Classic (Tichondrius)

2005-01-02T08:29:27Z

FierebladE:

This is for info on Tichondrius (PvP) tradespeople in the Basin. Are you looking for [[Tradeskills on Stormrage]]?

Information about pricing can be found in the [[Beta Market Prices]] page.

Format: Forum name - Character name [Level]

=='''Professions'''==
 
==='''Alchemy'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Alchemy Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill171.html Allakhazam] 

Bloodfly – Darwin 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [85] 
Helmar – Helmar [204] 
Katmarie - Zarana [143] 
Malphigian – Malphul [260] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [176] 
Staarkhand – Staark [245] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
ortliebj - Tongar [12] 

==='''Blacksmithing'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Blacksmithing Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill164.html Allakhazam] 

Champain - Champain 
Dan Solo - Danguinary 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
JcL – Jay 
Grrtr - LucidityAxel 
Sardaukar – Sardaukar 
Sjur – Sjur [225] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [120] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 

==='''Enchanting'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Enchanting Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill333.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [151] 
Nvvty [75]

==='''Engineering'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Engineering Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill202.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Gnome Engineering---''' 
E.L.- Alita [260] 
Nvts – Nvts [227] 

'''---Goblin Engineering--- ''' 
Baneon – Baneon [201] 

'''--- Undecided ---''' 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Elyvin – Diest [50] 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [?] 
Threndor - Gorlax [80] 
Rick – Jakther [106] 

==='''Leatherworking'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Leatherworking Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill165.html Allakhazam] 

Caolle - Grok 
cjam - Slora [132] 
Drake – Drak [165] 
Dan Solo - Gungadan [135] 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin - ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid [142] 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall - [1xx] 
Mashunit - Zogmash [63] 
Dezz - Blackavar [182] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [162] 

==='''Tailoring'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Tailoring Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill197.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Cathan – Cathan 
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [85] 
Dan Solo - Danperignon [130] 
Djhaigh – Stark [160] 
Elyvin – Diest [160] 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [125] 
Tharn - Divayth [110] 
Septra – Septra 
Dezz - Tish [105] 

== Collection skills==

==='''Herbalism'''===
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl 100 
Helmar – Helmar 
Katmarie - Zarana [150] 
Malphigian - Malphul [300] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon 
SpearStriker – Baroch [190] 
Staarkhand - Staark [290] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Woollybug - LadyBug 
ortliebj - Tongar [12] 

==='''Mining'''===
Baneon – Baneon [151] 
Champain – Champain [?] 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
E.L. – Alita [252] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Grrtr - LucidityAxel [?] 
JcL – Jay [?] 
Nekkid – Vandyll [?] 
Nvts – Nvts [235] 
Olon97 – Olona [229] 
Perith – perith [70] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon [?] 
Sardaukar - Sardaukar [?] 
Sheena – Sheena [183] 
Sjur – Sjur [242] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [126] 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [?] 
Terrik – Deadterrik [?] 
Threndor - Gorlax [75] 

==='''Skinning'''===
Caolle – Grok 
Cathan – Cathan 
cjam - Slora [174] 
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Dan Solo - Gungadan 
Drake – Drak [202] 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin – Ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid 165 
Olon97 – Olona [247] 
Perith – perith [122] 
Tharn - Divayth 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall [1xx] 
Sheena - Sheena [261] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [202] 

=='''Secondary Skills:'''==

==='''Cooking'''===
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [125] 
Katmarie - Zarana [104] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [150] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [115] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 

==='''First Aid'''===
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [90] 
E.L.- Alita [221] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
Sheena – Sheena [237] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [105] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [~ 70, will have to look it up] 
Slikkrikk - Greynok [210] 
Vhana - Nightchrome [150] 
Sjur - Sjur [218] 

==='''Fishing'''===
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [150] 
E.L.- Alita [163] 
Nvts – Nvts - [215] 
Olon97 – Olona [193] 
Sjur – Sjur [215] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [225] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [120] 
Brakken - Subaxion [212] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225]

Classic (Tichondrius)

2004-12-29T16:42:03Z

FierebladE: Added Staark's #'s

This is for info on Tichondrius (PvP) tradespeople in the Basin. Are you looking for [[Tradeskills on Stormrage]]?

Format: Forum name - Character name [Level]

=='''Professions'''==
 
==='''Alchemy'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Alchemy Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill171.html Allakhazam] 

Bloodfly – Darwin 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [85] 
Helmar – Helmar [204] 
Malphigian – Malphul [210] 
Rick – Jakther 
SpearStriker – Baroch [176] 
Staarkhand – Staark [245] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
ortliebj - Tongar [12] 

==='''Blacksmithing'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Blacksmithing Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill164.html Allakhazam] 

Champain - Champain 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
JcL – Jay 
Sardaukar – Sardaukar 
Sjur – Sjur [225] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [60] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 

==='''Enchanting'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Enchanting Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill333.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [151] 
Nvvty [75]

==='''Engineering'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Engineering Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill202.html Allakhazam] 

'''---Gnome Engineering---''' 
E.L.- Alita [250] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 

'''---Goblin Engineering--- ''' 

'''--- Undecided ---''' 
Baneon – Baneon [120] 
Drezen – Willheal [?] 
Drust – Drust [?] 
Elegantly - Elegantly [?] 
Elyvin – Diest [50] 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa [?] 

==='''Leatherworking'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Leatherworking Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill165.html Allakhazam] 

Caolle - Grok 
Drake – Drak [165] 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin - ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid [142] 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall - [1xx] 
Mashunit - Zogmash [63] 
Dezz - Blackavar [182] 

==='''Tailoring'''===
Link(s) to avaiable crafted items : [http://www.thottbot.com/?t=Tailoring Thottbot] - [http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/skill197.html Allakhazam] 

Bunny Lebowski – Harue 
Cathan – Cathan 
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [85] 
Djhaigh – Stark [160] 
Elyvin – Diest [160] 
Mashunit – Mashamoonit [125] 
Tharn - Divayth [90] 
Septra – Septra 
Dezz - Tish [105] 

== Collection skills==

==='''Herbalism'''===
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Crazycarl – Crazycarl 100 
Helmar – Helmar 
Malphigian - Malphul 
PiercingEagle – Earthon 
SpearStriker – Baroch [190] 
Staarkhand - Staark [282] 
Terrik – Deadterrik 
Vittori – vittori 
Woollybug - LadyBug 
ortliebj - Tongar [12] 

==='''Mining'''===
Baneon – Baneon [91] 
Champain – Champain 
Dezz – Dezz [145] 
Drezen – Willheal 
Drust – Drust 
E.L. – Alita [161] 
Elegantly - Elegantly 
JcL – Jay 
Nekkid – Vandyll 
Nvts – Nvts [220] 
Olon97 – Olona [200] 
Perith – perith [70] 
PiercingEagle – Earthon 
Sardaukar - Sardaukar 
Sheena – Sheena [183] 
Sjur – Sjur [242] 
SlikkRikk – Greynok [100] 
TacoSupreme – Kevisa 
Terrik – Deadterrik 

==='''Skinning'''===
Caolle – Grok 
Cathan – Cathan 
Cosmeg – Kalfu 
Drake – Drak [202] 
Hasta – Hasta 
Moridin – Ishmael 
Nekkid – Nekkid 165 
Olon97 – Olona [242] 
Perith – perith [122] 
Tharn - Divayth 
SnowDog – Snjarvarg 
Solidwolf – Megrimlock 
Trix - Kall [1xx] 
Sheena - Sheena [261] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 

=='''Secondary Skills:'''==

==='''Cooking'''===
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [125] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [150] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [115] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 

==='''First Aid'''===
Crazycarl – Crazycarl [90] 
E.L.- Alita [100] 
Nvts – Nvts [225] 
Sheena – Sheena [237] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [105] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [~ 70, will have to look it up]

Sjur - Sjur [218] 

==='''Fishing'''===
Crazycarl – Blastycarl [150] 
E.L.- Alita [151] 
Nvts – Nvts - [215] 
Olon97 – Olona [193] 
Sjur – Sjur [215] 
SpearStriker – Baroch [225] 
Mashunit - Mashamoonit [120] 
Brakken - Subaxion [212] 
Dezz - Blackavar [225] 

=='''Trading for crafting on Tichondrius'''==

''I took the liberty of cut/pasting from a beta list posted and made by William, Hands of Elune, from the official forums, with information gathered from CB Alliance Auction Houses. I also copyed the prizes, even though drop rates etc. may have changed since that time, so feel free to post your observations from trading in the auction house. Tradevalue to be inserted first, sell value, (for beta), is listed to the right.

Regards
Sjur''

'''Metal'''

20 Copper Bars = 30-50 s (2 s)

20 Tin Bars = 30-50 s (7 s)

20 Bronze Bars = 30-60 s (10 s)

20 Silver Bars = 1.5-2 g (20 s)

20 Iron Bars = 1-1.5 g (40 s)

20 Gold Bars = 1.6-2 g (1.2 g)

20 Mithril Bars = 3-5 g (80 s)

20 Thorium Bars = 12-15 g (1.2 g)

1 Truesilver Bar = 50-100 s (12.5 s)

1 Dark Iron Ore = 1-1.5 g (5 s)

1 Dark Iron Bar = 10-12 g (6 s)

1 Enchanted Thorium Bar = 1-2 g (5 s)

1 Arcanite Bar = 20-30 g (50 s)

'''Stone: (20/stack)'''

20 Rough Stone = 5-10 s (40 c)

20 Coarse Stone = 40-50 s (3 s)

20 Heavy Stone = 30-40 s (12 s)

20 Solid Stone = 50-70 s (20 s)

20 Dense Stone = 1-2 g (50 s)

'''Gems'''

1 Malakite = 4-6 s (15 c)

1 Tigerseye = 4-6 s (1 s)

1 Shadowgem = 8-10 s (2.5 s)

1 Lesser Moonstones= 20-30 s (6 s)

1 Moss Agate = 25-30 s (4 s)

1 Jade = 20-25 s (7 s)

1 Citrine = 20-25 s (8 s)

1 Small Lustrous Pearl = 5-10 s (2 s)

1 Iridescent Pearl = 30-50 s (7.5 s)

1 Blue Pearl = 10-15 s (50 c)

1 Black Pearl = 50-100 s (10 s)

1 Golden Pearl = 2-5 g (1 g)

1 Aquamarine = 15-30 s (10 s)

1 Star Ruby = 60-90 s (50 s)

1 Black Vitriol = 50-80 s (10 s)

1 Large Opal = 1-1.5 g (70 s)

1 Huge Emerald = 1.5-2 g (1 g)

1 Blue Sapphire = 1-1.5 g (70 s)

1 Azerothian Diamond = 1.5-2.5 g (1 g)

1 Blue Power Crystal = 5-10 s (-)

1 Green Power Crystal = 5-10 s (-)

1 Red Power Crystal = 5-10 s (-)

1 Yellow Power Crystal = 5-10 s (-)

1 Arcane Crystal = 10-20 g (20 s)

'''Enchanting Reagents: (10/stack)'''

1 Strange Dust = 5-10 s (-)

1 Soul Dust = 10-15 s (-)

1 Vision Dust = 15-20 s (-)

1 Dream Dust = 30-40 s (-)

1 Illusion Dust = ? (-)

1 Lesser Magic Essence = 6-10 s (-)

1 Greater Magic Essence = 20-30 s (-)

1 Lesser Astral Essence = 25-30 s (-)

1 Greater Astral Essence = 50-100 s (-)

1 Lesser Mystic Essence = 50-60 s (-)

1 Greater Mystic Essence = 70-90 s (-)

1 Lesser Nether Essence = 90-100 s (-)

1 Greater Nether Essence = 2-3 g (-)

1 Lesser Eternal Essence = ? (-)

1 Greater Eternal Essence = ? (-)

1 Small Shimmering Shard = 25-50 s (-)

1 Large Shimmering Shard = 50-120 s (-)

1 Small Glimmering Shard = 25-50 s (-)

1 Large Glimmering Shard = 50-120 s (-)

1 Small Glowing Shard = 1-1.5 g (-)

1 Large Glowing Shard = 1-3 g (-)

1 Small Radiant Shard = 1-1.5 g (-)

1 Large Radiant Shard = 4-5 g (-)

1 Small Brilliant Shard = ? (-)

1 Large Brilliant Shard = ? (-)

'''Leathers'''

10 Light Leather = 10-15 s (1.5 s)

10 Thin Kodo Leather = 15-20 s (2.5 s)

10 Medium Leather = 20-40 s (5 s)

10 Heavy Leather = 40-60 s (15 s)

10 Thick Leather = 60-80 s (30 s)

10 Rugged Leather = 80-100 s (50 s)

10 Frostsaber Leather = 75-100 s (50 s)

1 Enchanted Leather = 1-1.5 g (?)

'''Hides: (5 raw hides/stack, 10 if cured)'''

5 Light Hides = 8-10 s (5.5 s)

5 Medium Hides = 20-30 s (10 s)

5 Heavy Hides = 30-40 s (11.25 s)

5 Thick Hides = 40-50 s (25 s)

5 Rugged Hides = 1-2 g (25 s)

5 Raptor Hides = 20-40 s (10.4 s)

5 Shadowcat Hides = 20-40 s (12.5 s)

5 Thick Wolfhides = 75-100 s (50 s)

'''Scales:'''

10 Slimy Murloc Scales = 15-25 s (7.5 s)

10 Deviate Scales = 30-50 s (12.5 s)

10 Scorpid Scale = 50-100 s (25 s)

10 Turtle Scale = 60-100 s (10 s)

10 Red Whelp Scale = 1-2 g (10 s)

10 Thick Murloc Scales = 1-2 g (10 s)

10 Green Whelp Scales = 1-1.5 g (20 s)

10 Naga Scales = 30-40 s (15 s)

10 Perfect Deviate Scales = 1-2 g (50 s)

10 Heavy Scorpid Scales = 75-100 s (50 s)

10 Dragonscales = 1-2 g (50 s)

10 Worn Dragonscales = 75-100 s (50 s)

10 Blue Dragonscales = 75-100 s (50 s)

10 Green dragonscales = 75-100 s (50 s)

10 Black Dragonscales = 1.5-2 g (1 g)

'''Cloth'''

20 Linen Cloth = 10-20 s (2.6 s)

20 Wool Cloth = 15-25 s (6.6 s)

20 Silk Cloth = 45-60 s (30 s)

20 Mageweave Cloth = 75-150 g (50 s)

20 Runecloth = 1.5-2 g (80 s)

1 Fellcloth = 3-5 g (20 s)

1 Mooncloth = 8-10 g (40 s)

'''Spider Silk: (10/stack):'''

10 Spider Silk = 1.5-2.5 g (38.7 s)

10 Thick Spider Silk = 1.5-2 g (75 s)

10 Shadow Silk = 1.5-2 g (1 g)

10 Ironweb Spider Silk = 10-12 g (2.5 g)

'''Feathers & Claws: (5/stack) :'''

5 Jet Black Feathers = 20-30 s (5 s)

5 Long Tail Feathers = 30-50 s (15.15 s)

5 Vibrant Plumes = 60-80 s (41.25 s)

5 Sharp Claws = 5-10 s (2.25 s)

5 Large Fangs = 50-75 s (3.75 s)

5 Wicket Claws = 50-75 s (25 s)

'''Herbs: (20/stack)'''

20 Silverleaf = 10-15 s (2 s)

20 Peacebloom = 10-15 s (2 s)

20 Earthroot = 15-20 s (4 s)

20 Briarthorn = 80-120 s (5 s)

20 Mageroyal = 40-60 s (4 s)

20 Grave Moss = 40-60 s (5 s)

20 Bruiseweed = 30-50 s (5 s)

20 Swiftthisle = 30-40 s (3 s)

20 Kingsblood = 50-100 s (6 s)

20 Stranglekelp = 1.5-2 g (20 s)

20 Wild Steelbloom = 3.5-4.5 g (10 s)

20 Liferoot = 40-80 s (15 s)

20 Fadeleaf = 40-80 s (25 s)

20 Firebloom = 75-100 s (50 s)

20 Purple Lotus = 80-100 s (60 s)

20 Goldthorn = 4-5 g (30 s)

20 Sungrass = 10-12 g (12 s)

20 Blindweed = 2-2.5 g (75 s)

20 Gromsblood = 10-15 g (50 s)

20 Khadgar's Whiskers = 12-15 g (35 s)

20 Wintersbite = 2-2.5 g (20 s)

20 Ghost Mushroom = 4-5 g (75 s)

20 Icecap = 1.8-2.4 g (50 s)

1 Arthas' Tears = 50-100 s (95 c)

1 Dreamfoil = 50-100 s (1 s)

1 Golden Sansam = 50-100 s (1 s)

1 Mountain Silversage = 50-100 s (1.5 s)

1 Plaguebloom = 50-100 s (2.5 s)

1 Wildvine = 1-2 g (5 c)

'''Fish: (20/stack)'''

20 Deviate Fish = 30-50 s (5 s)

20 Firefin Snapper = 1-2 g (5 s)

20 Oily Blackmouth = 1-2 g (5 s)

1 Raw Glossy Mightfish = 5-10 s (3 s)

1 Raw Summer Bass = 5-10 s (3.5 s)

1 Raw Nightfin Snapper = 5-10 s (80 c)

1 Raw Stonescale Eel = 40-60 s (2.5 s)

1 Raw Sunscale Salmon = 5-10 s (80 c)

1 Winter Squid = 5-10 s (3.5 s)

'''Sacs: (5/stack)'''

5 Small Venom Sacs = 5-15 s (4.1 s)

5 Large Venom Sacs = 20-40 s (9.25 s)

5 Small Flame Sacs = 50-80 s (12.5 s)

'''Elements: (10/stack)'''

1 Elemental Earth = 6-10 s (4 s)

1 Elemental Water = 6-10 s (4 s)

1 Elemental Fire = 6-10 s (4 s)

1 Elemental Air = 6-10 s (4 s)

1 Ichor of Undeath = 60-80 s (4 s)

1 Heart of the Wild = 8-12 s (4 s)

1 Core of Earth = 3-4 g (4 s)

1 Heart of Fire = 3-4 g (4 s)

1 Globe of Water = 2-3 g (4 s)

1 Breath of Wind = 4-6 g (4 s)

1 Blood of the Mountain = 3-4 g (7.5 s)

1 Wild Essence = 10-20 s (5 s)

1 Essence of Undeath = 15-30 s (10 s)

1 Essence of Water = 10-40 s (4 s)

1 Essence of Earth = 10-15 g (4 s)

1 Essence of Fire = 4-5 g (4 s)

1 Essence of Air = 4-5 g (4 s)

'''Misc. Items:'''

1 Fused Wiring = 1.5-2 g (-)

1 Flask of Mojo = 4-5 s (2.5 s)

1 Flask of Big Mojo = 8-10 s (5 s)

1 Powerful Mojo = 1-1.5 g (70 s)

1 Volatile Rum = 6-10 s (4 s)

1 Righteous Orb = 3-5 g (2 g)

1 Guardian Stone = 2-3 g (1 g)

Fishing

2004-12-14T23:44:52Z

FierebladE: Removed bad thottbot links

'''Intro:'''

Hello: a couple small things about fishing, It's a secondary profession so it is not lvl capped.
Fishing is a great skill to make some early cash and combined with cooking you have easy access to ingredients to make, for instance, boiled clams that give a spirit/stamina bonus over 15 mins.
The loot is useful for early tailors and leatherworkers that haven't come across a skinner yet as well; i caught loads of leather and cloth.
On a higher fishing lvl you will be able to catch locked chests that contain nice magical items but you need a Rogue or a fairly high Blacksmith to open these chests with lockpicking/skeleton keys.
There is a little melee benefit as well: your fishing skill works towards your melee rating (this is not capped to your lvl) so with a high damage fishing pole (one exists for a lvl 5 - strong fishingpole) you can whack monsters a lot higher then your own lvl to gain quick exp while hitting them with almost every hit.

[[List of catches by fishing hole]]

'''Getting Started: Apprentice'''

Fishermen can be found in many low level areas to teach you Apprentise Fishing. Nearby there should also be a fishing vendor, who will sell you a pole (required) and some lures (recommended, at least at first). Purchase the basic pole and the lowest level lures. There should be water nearby, so go ahead and pick a spot on the shore right by the water. Now, equip your pole like a 2h weapon. Pressing 'P' will allow you to put your new 'Fishing' icon on your toolbar. Since you're currently a terrible fisher, right-click on your lure, then click on your equipped pole. Lures are limited in duration, so don't apply it until you're ready to get down to some serious fishing. Near the water's edge, pressing the fishing icon on your toolbar will cause to you cast. A timer will begin counting down, but you'll want to be watching the bobber - I put my cursur on it immediately. When you see it bob and splash, right-click ('open') on the bobber and your fish/loot will be there - unless it gets away. Take your reward and repeat.

'''Continuing Your Career: Journeyman'''

Your skill will raise quickly at first, and you'll soon outgrow your humble newbie hole. Journeymen Trainers are common as well. Be sure and purchase a "Strong" fishing pole if you haven't already, and look for a more difficult area. The difficulty and reward of different fishing areas is proportional to the level of the mobs around it - you'll also learn to gage difficulty based on the level of loot you're pulling in and the number of failed fishing attempts. For the Horde, Orgrimmar or the Ratchet docks are great places to skill up to 150. Continue to use appropiate lures if you're getting too many failures - I find, however, that one rarely need use anything more expensive than nightcrawlers.

'''Angling for Fun and Profit: Expert'''

Thottbot and various knowledge bases tell what trainers will teach you 'Expert' fishing - '''they are wrong, based on outdated info - ignore it!'''. Getting 'Expert' in secondary professions requires the purchase of a book, and fishing is no exception. Again, there is no level requirement, people may tell you you need level 20, but as of beta this was not the case. Old Man Hemming in Booty Bay sells an expert fishing book for 1g - he's on the south side, somewhat near the bank. On the Horde side, most people will catch the boat to Booty Bay after skilling up Journeyman in Ratchet - if you're short on cash for the book, just fish around the Bay until you have your 1g. Then don't leave, Booty Bay is one of the best fishing holes for raising expert fishing. At first you'll need to use lures to avoid too many escapees. Here you'll be pulling up crates and locked chests - these can be picked by any rogue with 90 lockpicking (perhaps less). Your skill increase will slow down, but you'll be catching more valuable items, like bolts of silk, engineering parts, and level 30+ items. Many feel that this is where the fisherman really hits his stride - in fact, one can fish very successfully in lvl 50+ zones with 225(+55) skill (strong pole + lure).

'''Zen and Art of Fishing: Artisan'''

Not too much is known of the arcane ways of the Artisan Fisherman. This coveted title is obtained through questing, and hence may be the only skill level with a level requirement. From the rumors and speculation department, a lvl 45 quest may hold the key to true angling mastery.

Fishing

2004-12-08T18:09:11Z

FierebladE: Deleted some old info about cosmos

'''Intro:'''

Hello: a couple small things about fishing, It's a secondary profession so it is not lvl capped.
Fishing is a great skill to make some early cash and combined with cooking you have easy access to ingredients to make, for instance, boiled clams that give a spirit/stamina bonus over 15 mins.
The loot is useful for early tailors and leatherworkers that haven't come across a skinner yet as well; i caught loads of leather and cloth.
On a higher fishing lvl you will be able to catch locked chests that contain nice magical items but you need a Rogue or a fairly high Blacksmith to open these chests with lockpicking/skeleton keys.
There is a little melee benefit as well: your fishing skill works towards your melee rating (this is not capped to your lvl) so with a high damage fishing pole (one exists for a lvl 5 - strong fishingpole) you can whack monsters a lot higher then your own lvl to gain quick exp while hitting them with almost every hit.

[[List of catches by fishing hole]]

'''Getting Started: Apprentice'''

Fishermen can be found in many low level areas to teach you Apprentise Fishing ([http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11868 locations], including links to maps at thottbot). Nearby there should also be a fishing vendor, who will sell you a pole (required) and some lures (recommended, at least at first). Purchase the basic pole and the lowest level lures. There should be water nearby, so go ahead and pick a spot on the shore right by the water. Now, equip your pole like a 2h weapon. Pressing 'P' will allow you to put your new 'Fishing' icon on your toolbar. Since you're currently a terrible fisher, right-click on your lure, then click on your equipped pole. Lures are limited in duration, so don't apply it until you're ready to get down to some serious fishing. Near the water's edge, pressing the fishing icon on your toolbar will cause to you cast. A timer will begin counting down, but you'll want to be watching the bobber - I put my cursur on it immediately. When you see it bob and splash, right-click ('open') on the bobber and your fish/loot will be there - unless it gets away. Take your reward and repeat.

'''Continuing Your Career: Journeyman'''

Your skill will raise quickly at first, and you'll soon outgrow your humble newbie hole. [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11868 Journeymen Trainers] are common as well. Be sure and purchase a "Strong" fishing pole if you haven't already, and look for a more difficult area. The difficulty and reward of different fishing areas is proportional to the level of the mobs around it - you'll also learn to gage difficulty based on the level of loot you're pulling in and the number of failed fishing attempts. For the Horde, Orgrimmar or the Ratchet docks are great places to skill up to 150. Continue to use appropiate lures if you're getting too many failures - I find, however, that one rarely need use anything more expensive than nightcrawlers.

'''Angling for Fun and Profit: Expert'''

Thottbot and various knowledge bases tell what trainers will teach you 'Expert' fishing - '''they are wrong, based on outdated info - ignore it!'''. Getting 'Expert' in secondary professions requires the purchase of a book, and fishing is no exception. Again, there is no level requirement, people may tell you you need level 20, but as of beta this was not the case. Old Man Hemming in Booty Bay sells an expert fishing book for 1g - he's on the south side, somewhat near the bank. On the Horde side, most people will catch the boat to Booty Bay after skilling up Journeyman in Ratchet - if you're short on cash for the book, just fish around the Bay until you have your 1g. Then don't leave, Booty Bay is one of the best fishing holes for raising expert fishing. At first you'll need to use lures to avoid too many escapees. Here you'll be pulling up crates and locked chests - these can be picked by any rogue with 90 lockpicking (perhaps less). Your skill increase will slow down, but you'll be catching more valuable items, like bolts of silk, engineering parts, and level 30+ items. Many feel that this is where the fisherman really hits his stride - in fact, one can fish very successfully in lvl 50+ zones with 225(+55) skill (strong pole + lure).

'''Zen and Art of Fishing: Artisan'''

Not too much is known of the arcane ways of the Artisan Fisherman. This coveted title is obtained through questing, and hence may be the only skill level with a level requirement. From the rumors and speculation department, [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=7122 this lvl 45 quest] may hold the key to true angling mastery.

Talk:Main Page

2004-12-01T17:29:18Z

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== Comments about the BasinWiki ==

''"I think the BasinWiki is awesome!"'' -Drake

Agreed!

Would it also be possible to add the geographical regions on the list, where, over time, one could compile quests and their levels? Or simply put links to other places where such information can be provided. - Sjur

Can we get the instances added to the left navigation pane? - Jini

Would a section on game mechanics be useful? I found some nice info on starting hp and how they go up as your stamina goes up, for example. - Spatten 
''Wouldn't hurt, go ahead and put it up.'' - TacoSupreme

Anyone good with macros and/or minor ui mods? The wiki's coming along well, I hope to see it become the repository of all knowledge (since I can browse it from behind my office's draconian firewall :ninja:) ~Staarkhand

Talk:Wailing Caverns

2004-12-01T08:11:35Z

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The thottbot links seem to be off.
~Staarkhand

Cooking

2004-11-22T16:51:47Z

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This is possibly an overlooked secondary profession. Many of the recipes you can learn give nice stat buffs: who would turn down +12 spirit and stamina for 15 minutes? Gathering ingredients can be a bit of a burden on your packs and bags, though.

An Expert Cookbook may be purchased from Wulan in Desolace or [http://i6.thottbot.com/m/b/2909.jpg Shandrina in Ashenvale].

Fishing

2004-11-22T03:37:00Z

FierebladE: Added quest info

'''Intro:'''

Hello: a couple small things about fishing, It's a secondary profession so it is not lvl capped.
Fishing is a great skill to make some early cash and combined with cooking you have easy access to ingredients to make, for instance, boiled clams that give a spirit/stamina bonus over 15 mins.
The loot is useful for early tailors and leatherworkers that haven't come across a skinner yet as well; i caught loads of leather and cloth.
On a higher fishing lvl you will be able to catch locked chests that contain nice magical items but you need a Rogue or a fairly high Blacksmith to open these chests with lockpicking/skeleton keys.
There is a little melee benefit as well: your fishing skill works towards your melee rating (this is not capped to your lvl) so with a high damage fishing pole (one exists for a lvl 5 - strong fishingpole) you can whack monsters a lot higher then your own lvl to gain quick exp while hitting them with almost every hit.

'''Getting Started: Apprentice'''

Fishermen can be found in many low level areas to teach you Apprentise Fishing ([http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11868 locations], including links to maps at thottbot). Nearby there should also be a fishing vendor, who will sell you a pole (required) and some lures (recommended, at least at first). Purchase the basic pole and the lowest level lures. There should be water nearby, so go ahead and pick a spot on the shore right by the water. Now, equip your pole like a 2h weapon. Pressing 'P' will allow you to put your new 'Fishing' icon on your toolbar. Since you're currently a terrible fisher, right-click on your lure, then click on your equipped pole. Lures are limited in duration, so don't apply it until you're ready to get down to some serious fishing. Near the water's edge, pressing the fishing icon on your toolbar will cause to you cast. A timer will begin counting down, but you'll want to be watching the bobber - I put my cursur on it immediately. When you see it bob and splash, right-click ('open') on the bobber and your fish/loot will be there - unless it gets away. Take your reward and repeat.

'''Continuing Your Career: Journeyman'''

Your skill will raise quickly at first, and you'll soon outgrow your humble newbie hole. [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11868 Journeymen Trainers] are common as well. Be sure and purchase a "Strong" fishing pole if you haven't already, and look for a more difficult area. The difficulty and reward of different fishing areas is proportional to the level of the mobs around it - you'll also learn to gage difficulty based on the level of loot you're pulling in and the number of failed fishing attempts. For the Horde, Orgrimmar or the Ratchet docks are great places to skill up to 150. Continue to use appropiate lures if you're getting too many failures - I find, however, that one rarely need use anything more expensive than nightcrawlers.

'''Angling for Fun and Profit: Expert'''

Thottbot and various knowledge bases tell what trainers will teach you 'Expert' fishing - '''they are wrong, based on outdated info - ignore it!'''. Getting 'Expert' in secondary professions requires the purchase of a book, and fishing is no exception. Again, there is no level requirement, people may tell you you need level 20, but as of beta this was not the case. Old Man Hemming in Booty Bay sells an expert fishing book for 1g - he's on the south side, somewhat near the bank. On the Horde side, most people will catch the boat to Booty Bay after skilling up Journeyman in Ratchet - if you're short on cash for the book, just fish around the Bay until you have your 1g. Then don't leave, Booty Bay is one of the best fishing holes for raising expert fishing. At first you'll need to use lures to avoid too many escapees. Here you'll be pulling up crates and locked chests - these can be picked by any rogue with 90 lockpicking (perhaps less). Your skill increase will slow down, but you'll be catching more valuable items, like bolts of silk, engineering parts, and level 30+ items. Many feel that this is where the fisherman really hits his stride - in fact, one can fish very successfully in lvl 50+ zones with 225(+55) skill (strong pole + lure).

'''Zen and Art of Fishing: Artisan'''

Not too much is known of the arcane ways of the Artisan Fisherman. This coveted title is obtained through questing, and hence may be the only skill level with a level requirement. From the rumors and speculation department, [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?q=7122 this lvl 45 quest] may hold the key to true angling mastery.

'''Tips'''

Clear out your inventory in a local bank before fishing - you'll fill it easily in a fishing session and this will cut downtime and increase cashflow.

[http://www.cosmosui.org/ Cosmos] has a neat feature that allows you to cast by simply right-clicking when you have a pole equipped. Another feature will automatically recast when you right-click on the bobber to get your loot - combined, these are a great convenience.

Talk:Main Page

2004-11-22T02:43:42Z

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User:Staarkhand

2004-11-22T02:41:22Z

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Probably best to contact me through the [http://www.theamazonbasin.com/wow/forums/index.php?act=Msg&CODE=04&MID=61 Basin Boards]

Fishing

2004-11-21T19:37:29Z

FierebladE: Edited/added some of links

'''Intro:'''

Hello: a couple small things about fishing, It's a secondary profession so it is not lvl capped.
Fishing is a great skill to make some early cash and combined with cooking you have easy access to ingredients to make, for instance, boiled clams that give a spirit/stamina bonus over 15 mins.
The loot is useful for early tailors and leatherworkers that haven't come across a skinner yet as well; i caught loads of leather and cloth.
On a higher fishing lvl you will be able to catch locked chests that contain nice magical items but you need a Rogue or a fairly high Blacksmith to open these chests with lockpicking/skeleton keys.
There is a little melee benefit as well: your fishing skill works towards your melee rating (this is not capped to your lvl) so with a high damage fishing pole (one exists for a lvl 5 - strong fishingpole) you can whack monsters a lot higher then your own lvl to gain quick exp while hitting them with almost every hit.

'''Getting Started: Apprentice'''

Fishermen can be found in many low level areas to teach you Apprentise Fishing ([http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11868 locations], including links to maps at thottbot). Nearby there should also be a fishing vendor, who will sell you a pole (required) and some lures (recommended, at least at first). Purchase the basic pole and the lowest level lures. There should be water nearby, so go ahead and pick a spot on the shore right by the water. Now, equip your pole like a 2h weapon. Pressing 'P' will allow you to put your new 'Fishing' icon on your toolbar. Since you're currently a terrible fisher, right-click on your lure, then click on your equipped pole. Lures are limited in duration, so don't apply it until you're ready to get down to some serious fishing. Near the water's edge, pressing the fishing icon on your toolbar will cause to you cast. A timer will begin counting down, but you'll want to be watching the bobber - I put my cursur on it immediately. When you see it bob and splash, right-click ('open') on the bobber and your fish/loot will be there - unless it gets away. Take your reward and repeat.

'''Continuing Your Career: Journeyman'''

Your skill will raise quickly at first, and you'll soon outgrow your humble newbie hole. [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11868 Journeymen Trainers] are common as well. Be sure and purchase a "Strong" fishing pole if you haven't already, and look for a more difficult area. The difficulty and reward of different fishing areas is proportional to the level of the mobs around it - you'll also learn to gage difficulty based on the level of loot you're pulling in and the number of failed fishing attempts. For the Horde, Orgrimmar or the Ratchet docks are great places to skill up to 150. Continue to use appropiate lures if you're getting too many failures - I find, however, that one rarely need use anything more expensive than nightcrawlers.

'''Angling for Fun and Profit: Expert'''

Thottbot and various knowledge bases tell what trainers will teach you 'Expert' fishing - '''they are wrong, based on outdated info - ignore it!'''. Getting 'Expert' in secondary professions requires the purchase of a book, and fishing is no exception. Again, there is no level requirement, people may tell you you need level 20, but as of beta this was not the case. Old Man Hemming in Booty Bay sells an expert fishing book for 1g - he's on the south side, somewhat near the bank. On the Horde side, most people will catch the boat to Booty Bay after skilling up Journeyman in Ratchet - if you're short on cash for the book, just fish around the Bay until you have your 1g. Then don't leave, Booty Bay is one of the best fishing holes for raising expert fishing. At first you'll need to use lures to avoid too many escapees. Here you'll be pulling up crates and locked chests - these can be picked by any rogue with 90 lockpicking (perhaps less). Your skill increase will slow down, but you'll be catching more valuable items, like bolts of silk, engineering parts, and level 30+ items. Many feel that this is where the fisherman really hits his stride - in fact, one can fish very successfully in lvl 50+ zones with 225(+55) skill (strong pole + lure).

'''Zen and Art of Fishing: Artisan'''

Not too much is known of the arcane ways of the Artisan Fisherman. This coveted title is obtained through questing, and hence may be the only skill level with a level requirement. I've heard scuttle that at lvl 35 you can start a quest in Orgrimmar that requires you to catch rare fish from various inhospitible zones around the world. More info when we have it!

'''Tips'''

Clear out your inventory in a local bank before fishing - you'll fill it easily in a fishing session and this will cut downtime and increase cashflow.

[http://www.cosmosui.org/ Cosmos] has a neat feature that allows you to cast by simply right-clicking when you have a pole equipped. Another feature will automatically recast when you right-click on the bobber to get your loot - combined, these are a great convenience.

First Aid

2004-11-21T19:34:24Z

FierebladE: Cleaned up links

Orc history

2004-11-21T19:15:50Z

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The savage, green-skinned Orcs are one of the most prolific races of Azeroth. They are commonly believed to be brutal and mindless, possessing no humanity or empathy for other races. Born on the hellish world of Draenor, the Orcs were brought into the kingdom of Stormwind through the dimensional gateway known as the Dark Portal and forced to wage war on the Humans. Although few are aware of their history, the Orcs once cultivated a noble, Shamanistic society on the world of Draenor. Tragically, the proud Orc clans were corrupted by the Burning Legion and used as pawns in the Legion's invasion of Azeroth. The Orcs managed to rebel, however, and they were ultimately able to help turn the tide against their demon masters. Led by the young Warchief, Thrall, the Orcs have reclaimed their strength and honor. Now, the Orcs stand ready to fight not for the sake of conquest, but for their right to survive in their adopted world.

== Available Classes ==
[[Hunter]], [[Warlock]], [[Warrior]], [[Shaman]], [[Rogue]]

== Racial Traits ==
Blood Fury (Active) - Activate to increase Strength by 25% but take 5% health loss every 3 seconds - lasts 20 sec - 2 min cooldown

Hardiness (Passive) - 25% resistance to stun and knockout effects

Command (Passive) - Pet melee damage increased by 5%

Axe Specialization (Passive) - Orcs get +5 to Axe skill

== Orc History ==

'''Kil'jaeden and the Shadow Pact'''

Around the time of Medivh's birth on Azeroth, Kil'jaeden the Deceiver sat and brooded amongst his followers within the Twisting Nether. The cunning demonlord, under orders of his master, Sargeras, was plotting the Burning Legion's second invasion of Azeroth. This time he would not allow any mistakes. Kil'jaeden surmised that he needed a new force to weaken Azeroth's defenses before the Legion even set foot upon the world. If the mortal races, such as the night elves and dragons, were forced to contend with a new threat, they would be too weak to pose any real resistance when the Legion's true invasion arrived.

It was at this time that Kil'jaeden discovered the lush world of Draenor floating peacefully within the Great Dark Beyond. Home to the shamanistic, clan-based orcs and the peaceful draenei, Draenor was as idyllic as it was vast. The noble orc clans roamed the open prairies and hunted for sport, while the inquisitive draenei built crude cities within the world's towering cliffs and peaks. Kil'jaeden knew that Draenor's denizens had great potential to serve the Burning Legion if they could be cultivated properly.

Of the two races, Kil'jaeden saw that the warrior orcs were more susceptible to the Legion's corruption. He enthralled the elder orc shaman, Ner'zhul, in much the same way that Sargeras brought Queen Azshara under his control in ages past. Using the cunning shaman as his conduit, the demon spread battle lust and savagery throughout the orc clans. Before long, the spiritual race was transformed into a bloodthirsty people. Kil'jaeden then urged Ner'zhul and his people to take the last step: to give themselves over entirely to the pursuit of death and war. Yet the old shaman, sensing that his people would be enslaved to hatred forever, somehow resisted the demon's command.

Frustrated by Ner'zhul's resistance, Kil'jaeden searched for another orc who would deliver his people into the Legion's hands. The clever demonlord finally found the willing disciple he sought - Ner'zhul's ambitious apprentice, Gul'dan. Kil'jaeden promised Gul'dan untold power in exchange for his utter obedience. The young orc became an avid student of demonic magic and developed into the most powerful mortal warlock in history. He taught other young orcs the arcane arts and strove to eradicate the orcs' shamanistic traditions. Gul'dan showed a new brand of magic to his brethren, a terrible new power that reeked of doom.

Kil'jaeden, seeking to tighten his hold over the orcs, helped Gul'dan found the Shadow Council, a secretive sect that manipulated the clans and spread the use of warlock magics throughout Draenor. As more and more orcs began to wield warlock magics, the gentle fields and streams of Draenor began to blacken and fade. Over time, the vast prairies the orcs had called home for generations withered away, leaving only red barren soil. The demon energies were slowly killing the world.

'''Rise of the Horde'''

The orcs became increasingly aggressive under the secret control of Gul'dan and his Shadow Council. They constructed massive arenas where the orcs honed their warrior skills in trials of combat and death. During this period, a few clan chieftains spoke out against the growing depravity in their race. One such chieftain, Durotan of the Frostwolf clan, warned against the orcs' losing themselves to hate and fury. His words fell on deaf ears, however, as stronger chieftains such as Grom Hellscream of the Warsong clan stepped forward to champion the new age of warfare and dominance.

Kil'jaeden knew that the orc clans were almost ready, but he needed to be certain of their ultimate loyalty. In secret, he had the Shadow Council summon Mannoroth the Destructor, the living vessel of destruction and rage. Gul'dan called the clan chieftains together and convinced them that drinking Mannoroth's raging blood would make them utterly invincible. Led by Grom Hellscream, all the clan chiefs except Durotan drank and thereby sealed their fates as slaves to the Burning Legion. Empowered by Mannoroth's rage, the chieftains unwittingly extended this subjugation to their unsuspecting brethren.

Consumed with the curse of this new bloodlust, the orcs sought to unleash their fury on any who stood before them. Sensing that the time had come, Gul'dan united the warring clans into a single unstoppable Horde. However, knowing that the various chieftains like Hellscream and Orgrim Doomhammer would vie for overall supremacy, Gul'dan set up a puppet warchief to rule over this new Horde. Blackhand the Destroyer, a particularly depraved and vicious orc warlord, was chosen to be Gul'dan's puppet. Under Blackhand's command, the Horde set out to test itself against the simple draenei.

Over the course of a few months, the Horde eradicated nearly every draenei living on Draenor. Only a scattered handful of survivors managed to evade the orcs' awesome wrath. Flushed with victory, Gul'dan reveled in the Horde's power and might. Still, he knew that without any enemies to fight, the Horde would consume itself with endless infighting in its unstoppable appetite for glorious slaughter.

Kil'jaeden knew that the Horde was finally prepared. The orcs had become the Burning Legion's greatest weapon. The cunning demon shared his knowledge with his waiting master, and Sargeras agreed that the time of his revenge had finally come.

'''The Dark Portal and the Fall of Stormwind'''

''Warcraft: Orcs and Humans''

As Kil'jaeden prepared the Horde for its invasion of Azeroth, Medivh continued to fight for his soul against Sargeras. King Llane, the noble monarch of Stormwind, grew wary of the darkness which seemed to taint the spirit of his former friend. King Llane shared his concerns with Anduin Lothar, the last descendent of the Arathi bloodline, whom he named his lieutenant-at-arms. Even so, neither man could have imagined that Medivh's slow descent into madness would bring about the horrors that were to come.

As a final incentive, Sargeras promised to bestow great power upon Gul'dan if he agreed to lead the Horde to Azeroth. Through Medivh, Sargeras told the warlock that he could become a living god if he found the undersea tomb where the Guardian Aegwynn had placed Sargeras' crippled body nearly a thousand years before. Gul'dan agreed and decided that once the denizens of Azeroth were beaten, he would find the legendary tomb and claim his reward. Assured that the Horde would serve his purposes, Sargeras ordered the invasion to begin.

Through a joint effort, Medivh and the warlocks of the Shadow Council opened the dimensional gateway known as the Dark Portal. This portal bridged the distance between Azeroth and Draenor, and it was large enough that armies might pass through it. Gul'dan dispatched orc scouts through the portal to survey the lands which they would conquer. The returning scouts assured the Shadow Council that the world of Azeroth was ripe for the taking.

Still convinced that Gul'dan's corruption would destroy his people, Durotan spoke out against the warlocks once more. The brave warrior claimed that warlocks were destroying the purity of the orcish spirit and that this reckless invasion would be their doom. Gul'dan, unable to risk killing such a popular hero, was forced to exile Durotan and his Frostwolf Clan into the far reaches of this new world.

After the exiled Frostwolves charged through the portal, only a few orc clans followed. These orcs quickly set up a base of operations within the Black Morass, a dark and swampy area far to the east of the kingdom of Stormwind. As the orcs began to branch out and explore the new lands, they came into immediate conflict with the human defenders of Stormwind. Though these skirmishes usually ended quickly, they did much to illustrate the weaknesses and strengths of both rival species. Llane and Lothar were never able to gather accurate data of the orcs' numbers and could only guess at how great a force they would have to contend with. After a few years the majority of the orcish Horde had crossed into Azeroth, and Gul'dan deemed that the time for the primary strike against humanity had come. The Horde launched its full might against the unsuspecting kingdom of Stormwind.

As the forces of Azeroth and the Horde clashed across the kingdom, internal conflicts began to take their toll on both armies. King Llane, who believed the bestial orcs to be incapable of conquering Azeroth, contemptuously held his position at his capital of Stormwind. However, Sir Lothar became convinced that the battle should be taken directly to the enemy, and he was forced to choose between his convictions and his loyalty to the king. Choosing to follow his instincts, Lothar stormed Medivh's tower-fortress of Karazhan with the help of the wizard's young apprentice, Khadgar. Khadgar and Lothar succeeded in vanquishing the possessed Guardian, whom they confirmed to be the source of the conflict. By killing Medivh's body, Lothar and the young apprentice inadvertently banished the spirit of Sargeras to the abyss. As a consequence, the pure, virtuous spirit of Medivh was also allowed to live on... and wander the astral plane for many years to come.

Although Medivh had been defeated, the Horde continued to dominate the defenders of Stormwind. As the Horde's victory drew nearer, Orgrim Doomhammer, one of the greatest orc chieftains, began to see the depraved corruption that had spread throughout the clans since their time in Draenor. His old comrade, Durotan, returned from exile and warned him yet again of Gul'dan's treachery. In speedy retribution, Gul'dan's assassins murdered Durotan and his family, leaving only his infant son alive. Unknown to Doomhammer was the fact that Durotan's infant son was found by the human officer, Aedelas Blackmoore, and taken as a slave.

That infant orc would one day rise to become the greatest leader his people would ever know.

Incensed by Durotan's death, Orgrim set out to free the Horde from demonic corruption and ultimately assumed the role of warchief of the Horde by killing Gul'dan's corrupt puppet, Blackhand. Under his decisive leadership the relentless Horde finally laid siege to Stormwind Keep. King Llane had severely underestimated the might of the Horde, and he watched helplessly as his kingdom fell to the green-skinned invaders. Ultimately King Llane was assassinated by one of the Shadow Council's finest killers: the half-orc, Garona.

Lothar and his warriors, returning home from Karazhan, hoped to stem the loss of life and save their once-glorious homeland. Instead, they returned too late and found their beloved kingdom in smoking ruins. The orcish Horde continued to ravage the countryside and claimed the surrounding lands for its own. Forced into hiding, Lothar and his companions swore a grim oath to reclaim their homeland at any cost.

'''The Alliance of Lordaeron'''

''Warcraft 2: Tides of Darkness''

Lord Lothar rallied the remnants of Azeroth's armies after their defeat at Stormwind Keep, and then launched a massive exodus across the sea to the northern kingdom of Lordaeron. Convinced that the Horde would overcome all of humanity if left unchecked, the leaders of the seven human nations met and agreed to unite in what would become known as the Alliance of Lordaeron. For the first time in nearly three thousand years, the disparate nations of Arathor were once again united under a common banner. Appointed as Supreme Commander of the Alliance forces, Lord Lothar prepared his armies for the coming of the Horde.

Aided by his lieutenants, Uther the Lightbringer, Admiral Daelin Proudmoore, and Turalyon, Lothar was able to convince Lordaeron's demi-human races of the impending threat as well. The Alliance succeeded in gaining the support of the stoic dwarves of Ironforge and a small number of high elves of Quel'Thalas. The elves, led at that time by Anasterian Sunstrider, were largely uninterested in the coming conflict. However, they were duty-bound to aid Lothar because he was the last descendent of the Arathi bloodline, which had aided the elves in ages past.

The Horde, now led by Warchief Doomhammer, brought in ogres from its homeworld of Draenor and conscripted the disenfranchised Amani forest trolls into its fold. Setting out on a massive campaign to overrun the dwarf kingdom of Khaz Modan and the southern reaches of Lordaeron, the Horde effortlessly decimated all opposition.

The epic battles of the Second War ranged from large-scale naval skirmishes to massive aerial dogfights. Somehow the Horde had unearthed a powerful artifact known as the Demon Soul and used it to enslave the ancient Dragonqueen, Alexstrasza. Threatening to destroy her precious eggs, the Horde forced Alexstrasza to send her grown children to war. The noble red dragons were forced to fight for the Horde, and fight they did.

The war raged across the continents of Khaz Modan, Lordaeron, and Azeroth itself. As part of its northern campaign, the Horde succeeded in burning down the borderlands of Quel'Thalas, thereby ensuring the elves' final commitment to the Alliance's cause. The greater cities and townships of Lordaeron were razed and devastated by the conflict. Despite the absence of reinforcements and overwhelming odds, Lothar and his allies succeeded in holding their enemies at bay.

However, during the final days of the Second War, as the Horde's victory over the Alliance seemed almost assured, a terrible feud erupted between the two most powerful orcs on Azeroth. As Doomhammer prepared his final assault against the Capital City of Lordaeron - an assault that would have crushed the last remnants of the Alliance - Gul'dan and his followers abandoned their posts and set out to sea. The bewildered Doomhammer, having lost nearly half of his standing forces to Gul'dan's treachery, was forced to pull back and forsake his greatest chance at victory over the Alliance.

The power-hungry Gul'dan, obsessed with obtaining godhood itself, set out on a desperate search for the undersea Tomb of Sargeras that he believed held the secrets of ultimate power. Having already doomed his fellow orcs to become the slaves of the Burning Legion, Gul'dan thought nothing of his supposed duty to Doomhammer. Backed by the Stormreaver and Twilight's Hammer clans, Gul'dan succeeded in raising the Tomb of Sargeras from the sea floor. However, when he opened the ancient, flooded vault, he found only crazed demons awaiting him.

Seeking to punish the wayward orcs for their costly betrayal, Doomhammer sent his forces to kill Gul'dan and bring the renegades back into the fold. For his recklessness, Gul'dan was torn apart by the maddened demons he had set loose. With their leader dead, the renegade clans quickly fell before Doomhammer's enraged legions. Though the rebellion had been quelled, the Horde was unable to recoup the terrible losses it had suffered. Gul'dan's betrayal had afforded the Alliance not only hope, but also time to regroup and retaliate.

Lord Lothar, seeing that the Horde was fracturing from within, gathered the last of his forces and pushed Doomhammer south, back into the shattered heartland of Stormwind. There, the Alliance forces trapped the retreating Horde within the volcanic fortress of Blackrock Spire. Though Lord Lothar fell in battle at the Spire's base, his lieutenant, Turalyon, rallied the Alliance forces at the eleventh hour and drove the Horde back into the abysmal Swamp of Sorrows. Turalyon's forces succeeded in destroying the Dark Portal, the mystical gateway that connected the orcs to their homeworld of Draenor. Cut off from its reinforcements and fractured by infighting, the Horde finally buckled in upon itself and fell before the might of the Alliance.

The scattered orc clans were quickly rounded up and placed within guarded internment camps. Though it seemed that the Horde had been defeated for good, some remained highly skeptical that peace would last. Khadgar, now an Archmage of some renown, convinced the Alliance high command to build the fortress of Nethergarde that would watch over the ruins of the Dark Portal and ensure that there would be no further invasions from Draenor.

'''The Invasion of Draenor'''

''Warcraft 2X: Beyond the Dark Portal''

As the fires of the Second War died down, the Alliance took aggressive steps to contain the orcish threat. A number of large internment camps, meant to house the captive orcs, were constructed in southern Lordaeron. Guarded by both the paladins and the veteran soldiers of the Alliance, the camps proved to be a great success. Though the captive orcs were tense and anxious to do battle once more, the various camp wardens, based at the old prison-fortress of Durnholde, kept the peace and maintained a strong semblance of order.

However, on the hellish world of Draenor, a new orcish army prepared to strike at the unsuspecting Alliance. Ner'zhul, the former mentor of Gul'dan, rallied the remaining orc clans under his dark banner. Aided by the Shadowmoon clan, the old shaman planned to open a number of portals on Draenor that would lead the Horde to new, unspoiled worlds. To power his new portals, he needed a number of enchanted artifacts from Azeroth. To procure them, Ner'zhul reopened the Dark Portal and sent his ravenous servants charging through it.

The new Horde, led by veteran chieftains such as Grom Hellscream and Kilrogg Deadeye (of the Bleeding Hollow clan), surprised the Alliance defense forces and rampaged through the countryside. Under Ner'zhul's surgical command, the orcs quickly rounded up the artifacts that they needed and fled back to the safety of Draenor.

King Terenas of Lordaeron, convinced that the orcs were preparing a new invasion of Azeroth, assembled his most trusted lieutenants. He ordered General Turalyon and the archmage, Khadgar, to lead an expedition through the Dark Portal to put an end to the orcish threat once and for all. Turalyon and Khadgar's forces marched into Draenor and repeatedly clashed with Ner'zhul's clans upon the ravaged Hellfire Peninsula. Even with the aid of the high elf Alleria Windrunner, the dwarf Kurdran Wildhammer, and the veteran soldier Danath Trollbane, Khadgar was unable to prevent Ner'zhul from opening his portals to other worlds.

Ner'zhul finally opened his portals to other worlds, but he did not foresee the terrible price he would pay. The portals' tremendous energies began to tear the very fabric of Draenor apart. As Turalyon's forces fought desperately to return home to Azeroth, the world of Draenor began to buckle in upon itself. Grom Hellscream and Kilrogg Deadeye, realizing that Ner'zhul's mad plans would doom their entire race, rallied the remaining orcs and escaped back to the relative safety of Azeroth.

On Draenor, Turalyon and Khadgar agreed to make the ultimate sacrifice by destroying the Dark Portal from their side. Though it would cost their lives, and the lives of their companions, they knew that it was the only way to ensure Azeroth's survival. Even as Hellscream and Deadeye hacked their way through the human ranks in a desperate bid for freedom, the Dark Portal exploded behind them. For them, and the remaining orcs on Azeroth, there would be no going back.

Ner'zhul and his loyal Shadowmoon clan passed through the largest of the newly created portals, as massive volcanic eruptions began to break Draenor's continents apart. The burning seas rose up and roiled the shattered landscape as the tortured world was finally consumed in a massive, apocalyptic explosion.

'''The Birth of the Lich King'''

Ner'zhul and his followers entered the Twisting Nether, the ethereal plane that connects all of the worlds scattered throughout the Great Dark Beyond. Unfortunately Kil'jaeden and his demonic minions were waiting for them. Kil'jaeden, who had sworn to take vengeance on Ner'zhul for his prideful defiance, slowly tore the old shaman's body apart, piece by piece. Kil'jaeden kept the shaman's spirit alive and intact, thus leaving Ner'zhul painfully aware of his body's gross dismemberment. Though Ner'zhul pleaded with the demon to release his spirit and grant him death, the demon grimly replied that the Blood Pact they had made long ago was still binding, and that Ner'zhul still had a purpose to serve.

The orcs' failure to conquer the world for the Burning Legion forced Kil'jaeden to create a new army to sew chaos throughout the kingdoms of the Azeroth. This new army could not be allowed to fall prey to the same petty rivalries and infighting that had plagued the Horde. It would have to be merciless and single-minded in its mission. This time, Kil'jaeden could not afford to fail.

Holding Ner'zhul's spirit helpless in stasis, Kil'jaeden gave him one last chance to serve the Legion or suffer eternal torment. Once again, Ner'zhul recklessly agreed to the demon's pact. Ner'zhul's spirit was placed within a specially crafted block of diamond-hard ice gathered from the far reaches of the Twisting Nether. Encased within the frozen cask, Ner'zhul felt his consciousness expand ten thousand-fold. Warped by the demon's chaotic powers, Ner'zhul became a spectral being of unfathomable power. At that moment, the orc known as Ner'zhul was shattered forever, and the Lich King was born.

Ner'zhul's loyal death knights and Shadowmoon followers were also transformed by the demon's chaotic energies. The wicked spellcasters were ripped apart and remade as skeletal liches. The demons had ensured that even in death, Ner'zhul's followers would serve him unquestioningly.

When the time was right, Kil'jaeden explained the mission for which he had created the Lich King. Ner'zhul was to spread a plague of death and terror across Azeroth that would snuff out human civilization forever. All those who died from the dreaded plague would arise as the undead, and their spirits would be bound to Ner'zhul's iron will forever. Kil'jaeden promised that if Ner'zhul accomplished his dark mission of scouring humanity from the world, he would be freed from his curse and granted a new, healthy body to inhabit.

Though Ner'zhul was agreeable and seemingly anxious to play his part, Kil'jaeden remained skeptical of his pawn's loyalties. Keeping the Lich King bodiless and trapped within the crystal cask assured his good conduct for the short term, but the demon knew that he would need to keep a watchful eye on him. To this end, Kil'jaeden called upon his elite demon guard, the vampiric dreadlords, to police Ner'zhul and ensure that he accomplished his dread task. Tichondrius, the most powerful and cunning of the dreadlords, warmed to the challenge; he was fascinated by the plague's severity and the Lich King's unbridled potential for genocide.

'''The Battle of Grim Batol'''

Meanwhile, in the war-torn lands of the south, the scattered remnants of the Horde fought for their very survival. Though Grom Hellscream and his Warsong clan managed to evade capture, Deadeye and his Bleeding Hollow clan were rounded up and placed in the internment camps in Lordaeron. Notwithstanding these costly uprisings, the camps' wardens soon re-established control over their brutish charges.

However, unknown to the Alliance, a large force of orcs still roamed free in the northern wastes of Khaz Modan. The Dragonmaw clan, led by the infamous warlock Nekros, was using an ancient artifact known as the Demon Soul to control the Dragonqueen, Alexstrasza, and her dragonflight. With the Dragonqueen as his hostage, Nekros built up a secret army within the abandoned - some say cursed - Wildhammer stronghold of Grim Batol. Planning to unleash his forces and the mighty red dragons on the Alliance, Nekros hoped to reunite the Horde and continue its conquest of Azeroth. His vision did not come to pass: a small group of resistance fighters, led by the human mage Rhonin managed to destroy the Demon Soul and free the Dragonqueen from Nekros' command.

In their fury, Alexstrasza's dragons tore Grim Batol apart and incinerated the greater bulk of the Dragonmaw clan. Nekros' grand schemes of reunification came crashing down as the Alliance troops rounded up the remaining orc survivors and threw them into the waiting internment camps. The Dragonmaw clan's defeat signaled the end of the Horde, and the end of the orcs' furious bloodlust.

'''Lethargy of the Orcs'''

Months passed, and more orc prisoners were rounded up and placed within the internment camps. As the camps began to overflow, the Alliance was forced to construct new camps in the plains south of the Alterac Mountains. To properly maintain and supply the growing number of camps, King Terenas levied a new tax on the Alliance nations. This tax, along with increased political tensions over border disputes, created widespread unrest. It seemed that the fragile pact that had forged the human nations together in their darkest hour would break at any given moment.

Amidst the political turmoil, many of the camp wardens began to notice an unsettling change come over their orc captives. The orcs' efforts to escape from the camps or even fight amongst themselves had greatly decreased in frequency over time. The orcs were becoming increasingly aloof and lethargic. Though it was difficult to believe, the orcs - once held as the most aggressive race ever seen on Azeroth - had completely lost their will to fight. The strange lethargy confounded the Alliance leaders and continued to take its toll on the rapidly weakening orcs.

Some speculated that some strange disease, contractible only by orcs, brought about the baffling lethargy. But Archmage Antonidas of Dalaran posed a different hypothesis. Researching what little he could find of orcish history, Antonidas learned that the orcs had been under the crippling influence of demonic power for generations. He speculated that the orcs had been corrupted by these powers even before their first invasion of Azeroth. Clearly, demons had spiked the orcs' blood, and in turn the brutes had been granted unnaturally heightened strength, endurance, and aggression.

Antonidas theorized that the orcs' communal lethargy was not actually a disease, but a consequence of racial withdrawal from the volatile warlock magics that had made them fearsome, bloodlusted warriors. Though the symptoms were clear, Antonidas was unable to find a cure for the orcs' present condition. Then too, many of his fellow mages, as well as a few notable Alliance leaders, argued that finding a cure for the orcs would be an imprudent venture. Left to ponder the orcs' mysterious condition, Antonidas' conclusion was that the orcs' cure would have to be a spiritual one.

'''The New Horde'''

The chief warden of the internment camps, Aedelas Blackmoore, watched over the captive orcs from his prison-stronghold, Durnholde. One orc in particular had always held his interest: the orphaned infant he had found nearly eighteen years before. Blackmoore had raised the young male as a favored slave and named him Thrall. Blackmoore taught the orc about tactics, philosophy, and combat. Thrall was even trained as a gladiator. All the while, the corrupt warden sought to mold the orc into a weapon.

Despite his harsh upbringing, young Thrall grew into a strong, quick-witted orc, and he knew in his heart that a slave's life was not for him. As he grew to maturity, he learned about his people, the orcs, whom he had never met: after their defeat, most of them had been placed in internment camps. Rumor had it that Doomhammer, the orc leader, had escaped from Lordaeron and gone into hiding. Only one rogue clan still operated in secret, trying to evade the watchful eyes of the Alliance.

The resourceful yet inexperienced Thrall decided to escape from Blackmoore's fortress and set off to find others of his kind. During his journeys Thrall visited the internment camps and found his once-mighty race to be strangely cowed and lethargic. Having not found the proud warriors he hoped to discover, Thrall set out to find the last undefeated orc chieftain, Grom Hellscream.

Constantly hunted by the humans, Hellscream nevertheless held onto the Horde's unquenchable will to fight. Aided only by his own devoted Warsong clan, Hellscream continued to wage an underground war against the oppression of his beleaguered people. Unfortunately, Hellscream could never find a way to rouse the captured orcs from their stupor. The impressionable Thrall, inspired by Hellscream's idealism, developed a strong empathy for the Horde and its warrior traditions.

Seeking the truth of his own origins, Thrall traveled north to find the legendary Frostwolf clan. Thrall learned that Gul'dan had exiled the Frostwolves during the early days of the First War. He also discovered that he was the son and heir of the orc hero Durotan, the true chieftain of the Frostwolves who had been murdered in the wilds nearly twenty years before.

Under the tutelage of the venerable shaman Drek'Thar, Thrall studied his people's ancient shamanistic culture, which had been forgotten under Gul'dan's evil rule. Over time, Thrall became a powerful shaman and took his rightful place as chieftain of the exiled Frostwolves. Empowered by the elements themselves and driven to find his destiny, Thrall set off to free the captive clans and heal his race of demonic corruption.

During his travels, Thrall found the aged warchief, Orgrim Doomhammer, who had been living as a hermit for many years. Doomhammer, who had been a close friend of Thrall's father, decided to follow the young, visionary orc and help him free the captive clans. Supported by many of the veteran chieftains, Thrall ultimately succeeded in revitalizing the Horde and giving his people a new spiritual identity.

To symbolize his people's rebirth, Thrall returned to Blackmoore's fortress of Durnholde and put a decisive end to his former master's plans by laying siege to the internment camps. This victory was not without its price: during the liberation of one camp, Doomhammer fell in battle.

Thrall took up Doomhammer's legendary warhammer and donned his black plate-armor to become the new warchief of the Horde. During the following months, Thrall's small but volatile Horde laid waste to the internment camps and stymied the Alliance's best efforts to counter his clever strategies. Encouraged by his best friend and mentor, Grom Hellscream, Thrall worked to ensure that his people would never be slaves again.

'''Archimonde's Return and the Flight to Kalimdor'''

After the orcs defeat and the rise of the undead scourge, Archimonde, leader of the demonic armies of the Burning Legion, launched his invasion upon the world of Azeroth.

In the midst of this chaos, a lone, mysterious prophet appeared to lend the mortal races guidance. This prophet proved to be none other than Medivh, the last Guardian, miraculously returned from the Beyond to redeem himself for past sins. Medivh told the Horde and the Alliance of the dangers they faced and urged them to band together. Jaded by generations of hate, the orcs and humans would have none of it. Medivh was forced to deal with each race separately, using prophecy and trickery to guide them across the sea to the legendary land of Kalimdor. The orcs and humans soon encountered the long-hidden civilization of the Kaldorei.

The orcs, led by Thrall, suffered a series of setbacks on their journey across Kalimdor's Barrens. Though they befriended Cairne Bloodhoof and his mighty tauren warriors, many orcs began to succumb to the demonic bloodlust that had plagued them for years. Thrall's greatest lieutenant, Grom Hellscream, even betrayed the Horde by giving himself over to his baser instincts. As Hellscream and his loyal Warsong warriors stalked through the forests of Ashenvale, they clashed with the ancient night elf Sentinels. Certain that the orcs had returned to their warlike ways, the demigod Cenarius came forth to drive Hellscream and his orcs back. Yet Hellscream and his orcs, overcome with supernatural hate and rage, managed to kill Cenarius and corrupt the ancient forestlands. Ultimately, Hellscream redeemed his honor by helping Thrall defeat Mannoroth, the demon lord who first cursed the orcs with his bloodline of hate and rage. With Mannoroth's death, the orcs' blood-curse was finally brought to an end.

'''The Battle of Mount Hyjal'''

Under Medivh's guidance, Thrall and Jaina Proudmoore - the leader of the human forces in Kalimdor - realized that they had to put aside their differences. Similarly, the night elves, led by Malfurion and Tyrande, agreed that they must unite if they hoped to defend the World Tree. Unified in purpose, the races of Azeroth worked together to fortify the World Tree's energies to their utmost. Empowered by the very strength of the world, Malfurion succeeded in unleashing Nordrassil's primal fury, utterly destroying Archimonde and severing the Legion's anchor to the Well of Eternity. The final battle shook the continent of Kalimdor to its roots. Unable to draw power from the Well itself, the Burning Legion crumbled under the combined might of the mortal armies.

'''Old Hatreds - The Colonization of Kalimdor'''

Though victory was theirs, the mortal races found themselves in a world shattered by war. The Scourge and the Burning Legion had all but destroyed the civilizations of Lordaeron, and had almost finished the job in Kalimdor. There were forests to heal, grudges to bury, and homelands to settle. The war had wounded each race deeply, but they had selflessly banded together to attempt a new beginning, starting with the uneasy truce between the Alliance and Horde.

Thrall led the orcs to the continent of Kalimdor, where they founded a new homeland with the help of their tauren brethren. Naming their new land Durotar after Thrall's murdered father, the orcs settled down to rebuild their once-glorious society. Now that the demon curse was ended, the Horde changed from a warlike juggernaut into more of a loose coalition, dedicated to survival and prosperity rather than conquest. Aided by the noble tauren and the cunning trolls of the Darkspear tribe, Thrall and his orcs looked forward to a new era of peace in their own land.

The remaining Alliance forces under Jaina Proudmoore settled in southern Kalimdor. Off the eastern coast of Dustwallow Marsh, they built the rugged port city of Theramore. There, the humans and their dwarven allies worked to survive in a land that would always be hostile to them. Though the defenders of Durotar and Theramore kept the tentative truce with one another, the fragile colonial serenity was not meant to last.

The peace between the orcs and humans was shattered by the arrival of a massive Alliance fleet in Kalimdor. The mighty fleet, under the command of Grand Admiral Daelin Proudmoore (Jaina's father), had left Lordaeron before Arthas had destroyed the kingdom. Having sailed for many grueling months, Admiral Proudmoore was searching for any Alliance survivors he could find.

Proudmoore's armada posed a serious threat to the stability of the region. As a renowned hero of the Second War, Jaina's father was a staunch enemy of the Horde, and he was determined to destroy Durotar before the orcs could gain a foothold in the land.

The Grand Admiral forced Jaina to make a terrible decision: support him in battle against the orcs and betray her newfound allies, or fight her own father to maintain the fragile peace that the Alliance and the Horde had finally attained. After much soul-searching, Jaina chose the latter and helped Thrall defeat her crazed father. Unfortunately Admiral Proudmoore died in battle before Jaina could reconcile with him or prove that orcs were no longer bloodthirsty monsters. For her loyalty, the orcs allowed Jaina's forces to return home safely to Theramore.

Talk:Fishing

2004-11-21T18:50:13Z

FierebladE:

''Good info, Hasta. I cleaned up some of the spelling/grammar/punctuation (heh: I 'catched' a few errors ;)). A couple things I would like to see under fishing: a newbie guide (I've seen many people confounded by how to actually fish - equip pole, hotkey fishing, right click on float when it bobs), and a guide to waterways - how to get to them, how to stay safe at them, and what you can catch there.'' - Malaclypse

I added some info in the form of a guide. I borrowed heavily from Hasta's guidance in game and on the basin boards.
~Staarkhand

Fishing

2004-11-21T18:49:44Z

FierebladE:

'''Intro:'''

Hello: a couple small things about fishing, It's a secondary profession so it is not lvl capped.
Fishing is a great skill to make some early cash and combined with cooking you have easy access to ingredients to make, for instance, boiled clams that give a spirit/stamina bonus over 15 mins.
The loot is useful for early tailors and leatherworkers that haven't come across a skinner yet as well; i caught loads of leather and cloth.
On a higher fishing lvl you will be able to catch locked chests that contain nice magical items but you need a Rogue or a fairly high Blacksmith to open these chests with lockpicking/skeleton keys.
There is a little melee benefit as well: your fishing skill works towards your melee rating (this is not capped to your lvl) so with a high damage fishing pole (one exists for a lvl 5 - strong fishingpole) you can whack monsters a lot higher then your own lvl to gain quick exp while hitting them with almost every hit.

'''Getting Started: Apprentice'''

Fishermen can be found in many low level areas to teach you Apprentise Fishing ([http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11868 locations], including links to maps at thottbot). Nearby there should also be a fishing vendor, who will see you a pole (required) and some lures (recommended, at least at first). Purchase the basic pole and the lowest level lures. There should be water nearby, so go ahead and pick a spot on the shore right by the water. Now, equip your pole like a 2h weapon. Pressing 'P' will allow you to put your new 'Fishing' icon on your toolbar. Since you're currently a terrible fisher, right-click on your lure, then click on your equipped pole. Lures are limited in duration, so don't apply it until you're ready to get down to some serious fishing. Near the water's edge, pressing the fishing icon on your toolbar will cause to you cast. A timer will begin counting down, but you'll want to be watching the bobber - I put my cursur on it immediately. When you see it bob and splash, right-click ('open') on the bobber and your fish/loot will be there - unless it gets away. Take your reward and repeat.

'''Continuing Your Career: Journeyman'''

Your skill will raise quickly at first, and you'll soon outgrow your humble newbie hole. [http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11868 Journeymen Trainers] are common as well. Be sure and purchase a "Strong" fishing pole if you haven't already, and look for a more difficult area. The difficulty and reward of different fishing areas is proportional to the level of the mobs around it - you'll also learn to gage difficulty based on the level of loot you're pulling in and the number of failed fishing attempts. For the Horde, Orgrimmar or the Ratchet docks are great places to skill up to 150. Continue to use appropiate lures if you're getting too many failures - I find, however, that one rarely need use anything more expensive than nightcrawlers.

'''Angling for Fun and Profit: Expert'''

Thottbot and various knowledge bases tell what trainers will teach you 'Expert' fishing - '''they are wrong, based on outdated info - ignore it!'''. Getting 'Expert' in secondary professions requires the purchase of a book, and fishing is no exception. Again, there is no level requirement, people may tell you you need level 20, but as of beta this was not the case. Old Man Hemming in Booty Bay sells an expert fishing book for 1g - he's on the south side, somewhat near the bank. On the Horde side, most people will catch the boat to Booty Bay after skilling up Journeyman in Ratchet - if you're short on cash for the book, just fish around the Bay until you have your 1g. Then don't leave, Booty Bay is one of the best fishing holes for raising expert fishing. At first you'll need to use lures to avoid too many escapees. Here you'll be pulling up crates and locked chests - these can be picked by any rogue with 90 lockpicking (perhaps less). Your skill increase will slow down, but you'll be catching more valuable items, like bolts of silk, engineering parts, and level 30+ items. Many feel that this is where the fisherman really hits his stride - in fact, one can fish very successfully in lvl 50+ zones with 225(+55) skill (strong pole + lure).

'''Zen and Art of Fishing: Artisan'''

Not too much is known of the arcane ways of the Artisan Fisherman. This coveted title is obtained through questing, and hence may be the only skill level with a level requirement. I've heard scuttle that at lvl 35 you can start a quest in Orgrimmar that requires you to catch rare fish from various inhospitible zones around the world. More info when we have it!

'''Tips'''

Clear out your inventory in a local bank before fishing - you'll fill it easily in a fishing session and this will cut downtime and increase cashflow.

Cosmos has a neat feature that allows you to cast by simply right-clicking when you have a pole equipped. Another feature will automatically recast when you right-click on the bobber to get your loot - combined, these are a great convenience.

Skinning

2004-11-21T18:47:01Z

FierebladE:

Skinning is an excellent support profession for leatherworking. Train this skill, then simply right-click on beast corpses to skin them. You'll be able to support your leatherworking and keep yourself in good armor at least for the lower levels without any particular effort.

Currently corpses need to be completely looted before they can be skinned. This is annoying and I hope it goes away, but it hasn't yet. You can skin other people's kills as well as your own.

Your skill increases may stop rather dramatically at some point - you've reached the limit of what skill the level of mobs you're fighting can give you. You'll continue to get leather, and your skill will continue to increase once you start skinning higher level mobs, assuming you haven't capped out your current skill level (apprentice, journeyman, etc.)

Talk:Fishing

2004-11-21T18:40:32Z

FierebladE:

Fishing

2004-11-21T18:37:46Z

FierebladE:

'''Intro:'''

Hello: a couple small things about fishing, It's a secondary profession so it is not lvl capped.
Fishing is a great skill to make some early cash and combined with cooking you have easy access to ingredients to make, for instance, boiled clams that give a spirit/stamina bonus over 15 mins.
The loot is useful for early tailors and leatherworkers that haven't come across a skinner yet as well; i caught loads of leather and cloth.
On a higher fishing lvl you will be able to catch locked chests that contain nice magical items but you need a Rogue or a fairly high Blacksmith to open these chests with lockpicking/skeleton keys.
There is a little melee benefit as well: your fishing skill works towards your melee rating (this is not capped to your lvl) so with a high damage fishing pole (one exists for a lvl 5 - strong fishingpole) you can whack monsters a lot higher then your own lvl to gain quick exp while hitting them with almost every hit.

'''Getting Started: Apprentice'''

Fishermen can be found in many low level areas to teach you Apprentise Fishing ([http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11868], locations, including links to maps at thottbot). Nearby there should also be a fishing vendor, who will see you a pole (required) and some lures (recommended, at least at first). Purchase the basic pole and the lowest level lures. There should be water nearby, so go ahead and pick a spot on the shore right by the water. Now, equip your pole like a 2h weapon. Pressing 'P' will allow you to put your new 'Fishing' icon on your toolbar. Since you're currently a terrible fisher, right-click on your lure, then click on your equipped pole. Lures are limited in duration, so don't apply it until you're ready to get down to some serious fishing. Near the water's edge, pressing the fishing icon on your toolbar will cause to you cast. A timer will begin counting down, but you'll want to be watching the bobber - I put my cursur on it immediately. When you see it bob and splash, right-click ('open') on the bobber and your fish/loot will be there - unless it gets away. Take your reward and repeat.

'''Continuing Your Career: Journeyman'''

Your skill will raise quickly at first, and you'll soon outgrow your humble newbie hole. Journeyman trainers are common as well ([http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=11868]). Be sure and purchase a "Strong" fishing pole if you haven't already, and look for a more difficult area. The difficulty and reward of different fishing areas is proportional to the level of the mobs around it - you'll also learn to gage difficulty based on the level of loot you're pulling in and the number of failed fishing attempts. For the Horde, Orgrimmar or the Ratchet docks are great places to skill up to 150. Continue to use appropiate lures if you're getting too many failures - I find, however, that one rarely need use anything more expensive than nightcrawlers.

'''Angling for Fun and Profit: Expert'''

Thottbot and various knowledge bases tell what trainers will teach you 'Expert' fishing - '''they are wrong, based on outdated info - ignore it!'''. Getting 'Expert' in secondary professions requires the purchase of a book, and fishing is no exception. Again, there is no level requirement, people may tell you you need level 20, but as of beta this was not the case. Old Man Hemming in Booty Bay sells an expert fishing book for 1g - he's on the south side, somewhat near the bank. On the Horde side, most people will catch the boat to Booty Bay after skilling up Journeyman in Ratchet - if you're short on cash for the book, just fish around the Bay until you have your 1g. Then don't leave, Booty Bay is one of the best fishing holes for raising expert fishing. At first you'll need to use lures to avoid too many escapees. Here you'll be pulling up crates and locked chests - these can be picked by any rogue with 90 lockpicking (perhaps less). Your skill increase will slow down, but you'll be catching more valuable items, like bolts of silk, engineering parts, and level 30+ items. Many feel that this is where the fisherman really hits his stride - in fact, one can fish very successfully in lvl 50+ zones with 225(+55) skill (strong pole + lure).

'''Zen and Art of Fishing: Artisan'''

Not too much is known of the arcane ways of the Artisan Fisherman. This coveted title is obtained through questing, and hence may be the only skill level with a level requirement. I've heard scuttle that at lvl 35 you can start a quest in Orgrimmar that requires you to catch rare fish from various inhospitible zones around the world. More info when we have it!

'''Tips'''

Clear out your inventory in a local bank before fishing - you'll fill it easily in a fishing session and this will cut downtime and increase cashflow.

Cosmos has a neat feature that allows you to cast by simply right-clicking when you have a pole equipped. Another feature will automatically recast when you right-click on the bobber to get your loot - combined, these are a great convenience.

Fishing

2004-11-21T17:40:45Z

FierebladE:

Hello: a couple small things about fishing, It's a secondary profession so it is not lvl capped.
Fishing is a great skill to make some early cash and combined with cooking you have easy access to ingredients to make, for instance, boiled clams that give a spirit/stamina bonus over 15 mins.
The loot is useful for early tailors and leatherworkers that haven't come across a skinner yet as well; i caught loads of leather and cloth.
On a higher fishing lvl you will be able to catch locked chests that contain nice magical items but you need a Rogue or a fairly high Blacksmith to open these chests with lockpicking/skeleton keys.
There is a little melee benefit as well: your fishing skill works towards your melee rating (this is not capped to your lvl) so with a high damage fishing pole (one exists for a lvl 5 - strong fishingpole) you can whack monsters a lot higher then your own lvl to gain quick exp while hitting them with almost every hit.

Getting "Expert" in secondary professions requires the purchase of a book, and fishing is no exception. Old Man Hemming in Booty Bay sells an expert fishing book for 1g - he's on the south side, somewhat near the bank. On the Horde side, most people will catch the boat to Booty Bay after skilling up Journeyman in Ratchet - if you're short on cash for the book, just fish around the Bay until you have your 1g. Then don't leave, Booty Bay is one of the best fishing holes for raising expert fishing. At first you'll need to use lures to avoid too many escapees. Here you'll be pulling up crates and locked chests - these can be picked by any rogue with 90 lockpicking (perhaps less).