Talk:Volvo backup Healer - Revision history

SnowDog at 03:05, 27 November 2005

2005-11-27T03:05:43Z

SnowDog at 00:10, 27 November 2005

2005-11-27T00:10:37Z

Jini at 07:47, 26 November 2005

2005-11-26T07:47:13Z

SnowDog at 04:17, 26 November 2005

2005-11-26T04:17:46Z

SnowDog at 22:00, 17 November 2005

2005-11-17T22:00:54Z

SnowDog at 21:59, 17 November 2005

2005-11-17T21:59:31Z

SnowDog: New Build

2005-11-17T21:58:35Z

New Build

Jini at 21:37, 17 November 2005

2005-11-17T21:37:18Z

Jini at 17:03, 16 November 2005

2005-11-16T17:03:48Z

SnowDog at 15:41, 16 November 2005

2005-11-16T15:41:53Z

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	I only was looking at Lasting Judgement as it kind of replaces the old Improved Blessing of Light, unless I'm thinking of it wrong. Yeah, I'm not thrilled with the retri choices either, but I wasn't thrilled with the old ones. If the goal is still to get consecration, I'm guessing we still need 21 Retri. Maybe we won't aim for consecration, then ... We'll see what the final trees look like. --[[User:SnowDog\|SnowDog]] 00:10, 27 Nov 2005 (GMT)		I only was looking at Lasting Judgement as it kind of replaces the old Improved Blessing of Light, unless I'm thinking of it wrong. Yeah, I'm not thrilled with the retri choices either, but I wasn't thrilled with the old ones. If the goal is still to get consecration, I'm guessing we still need 21 Retri. Maybe we won't aim for consecration, then ... We'll see what the final trees look like. --[[User:SnowDog\|SnowDog]] 00:10, 27 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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		+	I saw an interesting comment regarding Holy Power -- think of it as reducing the costs of your heals by 5%. Worth 5 talents on its own? Not sure. But in the absence of something else calling a healer paladin name, it seems worthwhile to me. Other comments: Holy Shock being used as a heal is intersting in that it's now instant, but it's much less mana-efficient. I probably wouldn't bother to get it, but I could be persuaded otherwise. It would make Consecration impossible of course. --[[User:SnowDog\|SnowDog]] 03:05, 27 Nov 2005 (GMT)

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	Eye for an Eye only applies if you are being targetted. This will not happen much for this build. Vindication may not be worthwhile if it doesn't stack across multiple Paladins. We may need only one or two of us to take this Talent. --[[User:Jini\|Jini]] 07:47, 26 Nov 2005 (GMT)		Eye for an Eye only applies if you are being targetted. This will not happen much for this build. Vindication may not be worthwhile if it doesn't stack across multiple Paladins. We may need only one or two of us to take this Talent. --[[User:Jini\|Jini]] 07:47, 26 Nov 2005 (GMT)

		+	I only was looking at Lasting Judgement as it kind of replaces the old Improved Blessing of Light, unless I'm thinking of it wrong. Yeah, I'm not thrilled with the retri choices either, but I wasn't thrilled with the old ones. If the goal is still to get consecration, I'm guessing we still need 21 Retri. Maybe we won't aim for consecration, then ... We'll see what the final trees look like. --[[User:SnowDog\|SnowDog]] 00:10, 27 Nov 2005 (GMT)

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	* Eye for an Eye (2/2) - All spell criticals against you cause 15% of the damage taken to the caster as well. The damage caused bye Eye for an Eye will not exceed 50% of the Paladin's total health.		* Eye for an Eye (2/2) - All spell criticals against you cause 15% of the damage taken to the caster as well. The damage caused bye Eye for an Eye will not exceed 50% of the Paladin's total health.
	* Consecration (1/1)		* Consecration (1/1)
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		+	I'm not that big a fan of a few of the Talents but don't know what the alternatives really are. Lasting Judgement is of questionable value as Judgements should be refreshed every time the mob is hit. Holy Power is meh, but combined with Illumination it might be worth it.
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		+	Eye for an Eye only applies if you are being targetted. This will not happen much for this build. Vindication may not be worthwhile if it doesn't stack across multiple Paladins. We may need only one or two of us to take this Talent. --[[User:Jini\|Jini]] 07:47, 26 Nov 2005 (GMT)

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 SnowDog: Here's my thought on a new backup healer build.  It's pretty similar to the main healer build, I guess.  I would think that you'd want to do half of holy first, then get consecration, then back to fill out holy.  A L55 character with this build would have everything but Divine Strength.
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 Ok, so here it is after fine-tuning.  At L52 (where I am today) it looks like I can have Sanctity Aura, Consecration, and SoC.  What I don't have yet is Improved Seal of Light.
 <B>Holy Talents -  29 points</B>

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 Ok, so here it is after fine-tuning.  At L52 (where I am today) it looks like I can have Sanctity Aura, Consecration, and SoC.  What I don't have yet is Improved Seal of Light.
-Holy Talents -  22 points
+<B>Holy Talents -  22 points</B>
 * Spiritual Focus - rank 4/5
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 * Sanctity Aura - rank 1/1
-Retribution Talents -  21 points
+<B>Retribution Talents -  21 points</B>
 * Benediction - rank 5/5
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 At 60, it's:
-Holy Talents -  29 points
+<B>Holy Talents -  29 points</B>
 * Spiritual Focus - rank 4/5
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 * Improved Seal of Light - rank 5/5
-Retribution Talents -  22 points
+<B>Retribution Talents -  22 points</B>
 * Benediction - rank 5/5

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	== New Build ==		== New Build ==
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		+	Ok, so here it is after fine-tuning. At L52 (where I am today) it looks like I can have Sanctity Aura, Consecration, and SoC. What I don't have yet is Improved Seal of Light.
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		+	Holy Talents - 22 points
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		+	* Spiritual Focus - rank 4/5
		+	* Improved Holy Light - rank 3/3
		+	* Illumination - rank 5/5
		+	* Divine Favor - rank 1/1
		+	* Improved Seal of Righteousness - rank 5/5
		+	* Improved Flash of Light - rank 3/3
		+	* Sanctity Aura - rank 1/1
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		+	Retribution Talents - 21 points
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		+	* Benediction - rank 5/5
		+	* Two-Handed Weapon Specialization - rank 5/5
		+	* Deflection - rank 5/5
		+	* Vengeance - rank 4/5
		+	* Seal of Command - rank 1/1
		+	* Consecration - rank 1/1
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		+	At 60, it's:
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		+	Holy Talents - 29 points
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		+	* Spiritual Focus - rank 4/5
		+	* Improved Holy Light - rank 3/3
		+	* Revelation - rank 2/2
		+	* Illumination - rank 5/5
		+	* Divine Favor - rank 1/1
		+	* Improved Seal of Righteousness - rank 5/5
		+	* Improved Flash of Light - rank 3/3
		+	* Sanctity Aura - rank 1/1
		+	* Improved Seal of Light - rank 5/5
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		+	Retribution Talents - 22 points
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		+	* Benediction - rank 5/5
		+	* Two-Handed Weapon Specialization - rank 5/5
		+	* Deflection - rank 5/5
		+	* Vengeance - rank 5/5
		+	* Seal of Command - rank 1/1
		+	* Consecration - rank 1/1

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	Talked to TacoSupreme about the proposed spec. He prefers Vengeance over Anticipation. We also agree that gettin 4 points of Vengeance and 1 point into Seal of Command was worth it.		Talked to TacoSupreme about the proposed spec. He prefers Vengeance over Anticipation. We also agree that gettin 4 points of Vengeance and 1 point into Seal of Command was worth it.
	--[[User:Jini\|Jini]] 21:37, 17 Nov 2005 (GMT)		--[[User:Jini\|Jini]] 21:37, 17 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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		+	== New Build ==

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	My thoughts run a bit more toward defense. Swap Imp Seal of Light in for Divine Strength and swap Anticipation in for Vengeance. I tend to be underwhelmed with Vengeance and I have the highest crit rate in the group. It is useful to keep Seal of Light up on the main target, especially for tougher fights and it seems to make sense for the backup healer to Judge it.		My thoughts run a bit more toward defense. Swap Imp Seal of Light in for Divine Strength and swap Anticipation in for Vengeance. I tend to be underwhelmed with Vengeance and I have the highest crit rate in the group. It is useful to keep Seal of Light up on the main target, especially for tougher fights and it seems to make sense for the backup healer to Judge it.
	--[[User:Jini\|Jini]] 17:03, 16 Nov 2005 (GMT)		--[[User:Jini\|Jini]] 17:03, 16 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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		+	Talked to TacoSupreme about the proposed spec. He prefers Vengeance over Anticipation. We also agree that gettin 4 points of Vengeance and 1 point into Seal of Command was worth it.
		+	--[[User:Jini\|Jini]] 21:37, 17 Nov 2005 (GMT)

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	I'm pretty sure Spiritual Focus and Concentration don't stack that way. It checks twice so if SF give 56% and Concentration is 50% you would have a 78% of not being interupted.		I'm pretty sure Spiritual Focus and Concentration don't stack that way. It checks twice so if SF give 56% and Concentration is 50% you would have a 78% of not being interupted.
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		+	My thoughts run a bit more toward defense. Swap Imp Seal of Light in for Divine Strength and swap Anticipation in for Vengeance. I tend to be underwhelmed with Vengeance and I have the highest crit rate in the group. It is useful to keep Seal of Light up on the main target, especially for tougher fights and it seems to make sense for the backup healer to Judge it.
		+	--[[User:Jini\|Jini]] 17:03, 16 Nov 2005 (GMT)

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		+	SnowDog: Here's my thought on a new backup healer build. It's pretty similar to the main healer build, I guess. I would think that you'd want to do half of holy first, then get consecration, then back to fill out holy. A L55 character with this build would have everything but Divine Strength.
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		+	<b>Holy Talents - 30 points</b>
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		+	* Improved Lay on Hands - rank 1/2
		+	* Spiritual Focus - rank 4/5
		+	* Improved Holy Light - rank 3/3
		+	* Revelation - rank 2/2
		+	* Illumination - rank 5/5
		+	* Divine Favor - rank 1/1
		+	* Improved Seal of Righteousness - rank 5/5
		+	* Improved Flash of Light - rank 3/3
		+	* Sanctity Aura - rank 1/1
		+	* Divine Strength - rank 5/5
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		+	<b>Retribution Talents - 21 points</b>
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		+	* Benediction - rank 5/5
		+	* Two-Handed Weapon Specialization - rank 5/5
		+	* Deflection - rank 5/5
		+	* Vengeance - rank 5/5
		+	* Consecration - rank 1/1
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