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'''''Kudos to Champain on Tich for compiling this guide!'''''
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The goal of the fight is to destroy all the eggs while controlling the mobs that spawn. The mages are killed as they spawn, and the non-mage mobs are kited around the room, while someone uses the orb to control Razorgore. Razorgore has an ability that allows him to break the eggs, which the controller uses as soon as it is available. Once all the eggs are destroyed, all of the mobs that have been kited will run out of the room and Razorgore will become uncontrollable. At this point, Razorgore is killed.
 
The goal of the fight is to destroy all the eggs while controlling the mobs that spawn. The mages are killed as they spawn, and the non-mage mobs are kited around the room, while someone uses the orb to control Razorgore. Razorgore has an ability that allows him to break the eggs, which the controller uses as soon as it is available. Once all the eggs are destroyed, all of the mobs that have been kited will run out of the room and Razorgore will become uncontrollable. At this point, Razorgore is killed.
  
'''Tichondrius notes'''
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===Tichondrius notes===
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'''''Kudos to Champain on Tich for compiling this guide!'''''
  
 
''The layout''
 
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'''Stormrage notes'''
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===Stormrage notes===
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Our strategy is a modified 4-corner strat.
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We split the raid into 4 teams. Each team occupies one corner.
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Team A is groups 1 and 2 who go west
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Team B is groups 3 and 4 who go south
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Team C is groups 5 and 6 who go north
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Team D is groups 7 and 8 who go east
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The exception to this is the one paladin and the one warrior who will control razorgore. I will try to put them in group 1 and balance accordingly.
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The healers are also going to be living in the middle of the room. This is so that if they get aggro it's much easier to tell. We will still have two kiting warriors and 4 mage killing warriors.
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'''PHASE I (Break the Eggs)'''
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'''Orb Team'''
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I've thought about putting a paladin as the conflag bait. It all depends on how much healing with think we have and if we can afford to lose a paladin on healing. I know in some Ony battles and even in a few Razor attempts it was the paladins who were doing the bulk of the healing since the druids and priests were dead. However the person who breaks the last egg is essentially just conflag bait. The requirements are very high FR and some heavier armor for the two or 3 physical hits you might get when you come out of the conflag. Paladins look to fit this bill.
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The controller team is a warrior with a paladin back-up (as FR gear climbs it could very well just be a paladin or two). A priest will make sure PW:S is up at all times just in case something goes wrong. Many times this is a waste of mana, but sometimes it is vital. The paladin back-up will act as an OOC rezbot as well since reports are that waiting around as a back-up controller and doing nothing will often drop you out of combat. You generally have 2-3 seconds to warn that the back-up controller will be needed so breaking a rez and running back to the orb are doable. If you get thrown in combat oh well.
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'''DPS '''
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A rogue in each team is appointed Main Assist, Mages, Hunters, Warlocks, Paladins, and Rogues in the team will help kill the mage they target.
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'''Warriors '''
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You get to kite the legionaires and the dragonkin. We might change the dragonkin strat later to having hunters kite one each and druids sleep one each. We might decided that the corner warriors are going to try and help tank and kill everything as it spawns.
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There will be a warrior in each corner and two warriors in the middle. Corner warriors will act as DPS if there is just a mage, tank the mobs if can, if we think we can keep up with the spawn rate then you tank every thing while DPS kills it based off the rogue MA calls.. However assuming the spawn rate is the same as it has always been your main job is to try and get early mobs and kite them. Pick them up and start kiting. I'm not overly concerned about kite paths right now since 6 warriors should end up kiting. I do want you guys to try and space out though so that pick up is fast as possible.
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The two warriors in the middle will be limited healer protection and orb controller protection. If a mage gets in there, pick it up, shield bash or pummel it and get it to a kill zone. If a lego or dragonkin ends up in there taunt it, but try not to put too much aggro on it and see if you can get it near a kite path. I know that taunt gives you all of 2 seconds of top of hate list but since those mobs might be getting CC'd or you want them on another kiter you have to try and keep aggro low. If a couple mobs come in at once, one of you picks them both up and you just become a kiter. This is why it is limited protection but the idea is to keep the healers from having to use their own tricks as long as possible.
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'''Healers'''
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Paladins are not counted as primary healers for this phase. They can get in the thick of the corners to do what they can for DPS and tanking. They can heal, but won't be in the center spot with the primary healers.
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The druids and priests will be trying to stay as close to the middle of the room as they can while staying in healing range. You not only get to do what you can for DPS but you get to try and keep the kiters up too. Druids should still try to hibernate dragonkin, but we will also be looking to them to heal the kiting warriors. We've seen that the kiters don't lose aggro on their packs and the warriors like HoT's. Druids have two HoT's and rejuv is slightly slower flash flash heal + HoT. Priests healing DPS can still fade to drop aggro till that mob is dead. Ideally, we will have enough control to keep stuff out of the middle for quite some time. If possible, in addition to the priest who is ready to shield the controller, a priest should be ready to shield the kiters.
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'''PHASE II (Kill Razorgore)'''
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When all the eggs are broken the room clears and phase 2 begins. Everyone except for two warriors and the conflag bait should stop doing anything that might generate aggro (Fade/Feint/Feign Death are a good idea here). Razorgore will head to the person who broke the last egg, but he might have reason to turn around suddenly after that. Read on.
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'''Tanking'''
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The warrior (or possibly paladin) who broke the last egg will end up being the "MT" the one person who has the most aggro on Razorgore. However they are not the one who is really controlling Razor. They will run to the North corner of the room and Razor will come after them. This means that everyone in the North needs to clear out of that corner fast (I suggest up the ramp). Razorgore's conflag is a frontal cone and it has a decent range there is a good chance that he will fire this off before getting in melee range with the bait.
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The ST will be a warrior who simply lays into Razor as fast as possible. There will be 2 other warriors (the secondary and tertiary tanks) who get as close to Razor as possible when the last egg is going down and they lay into him. Sunder, revenge, shield slam, shield bash. Generate aggro as fast as you can because when that conflag hits the bait you want to be second and 3rd on the hate list. Whoever lands the first sunder gets to call out on TS that they are second tank. The other warrior should try to build aggro a little slower to make sure that they are only 3rd. I want 2 warriors for this because I want Razor controlled as fast as possible and I want any damage he does directed at warriors as best we can. Two people trying to get aggro ups our chances of this.
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You want to try and stand 90 degrees to the MT. Razor will be facing the corner so you should be on the side by the door to Vael's room (NW). Keep in mind the conflag bait will be running around and can travel pretty far. Razor will conflag them again anywhere from immediately after conflag wears off to a few seconds after. Be aware and stay the hell away from the conflag cone.
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The tertiary tank will end up being with the other melee DPS.
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'''DPS '''
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IF YOU GET AGGRO BEFORE RAZOR IS UNDER CONTROL AND ARE NOT CONFLAGGED RUN TO THE TANKING CORNER!
  
We start in the Southwest corner of the room. The controller mob and his two guards are killed first. The controller group (2 people to control and one priest to shield, not heal, them) then takes a position on the ground, in front of the platform where the orb resides. The controller may be the warrior who will eventually be tanking Razorgore, in order to help establish aggro.
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'''Melee DPS '''
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You do nothing until you see that the secondary tank has aggro, at that point you attack. Melee DPS will be standing across from the conflag bait tank and 90 degrees to the the secondary tank (backs directly to the center of the room). You all need to be aware that Razor will shift and that the conflag tank has no control over where he will stop. Be aware. Stay out of the conflag cone. If you get conflagged, you are dead. You will not get healing, there will not be any healing for you.  
  
Druids choose one dragonkin and keep it hibernated throughout the fight. Healing is generally bad, since there are a lot of mobs out there, and you don't want aggro.
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You do nothing until you see that the secondary tank has aggro, at that point you attack. Razor can teleport people to him that are out of range and have aggro be aware of that. There is a range on the fireball volley (FR gear does help, yes) and you can sometimes duck behind objects to avoid it. Hunters will use Feign Death cycles.
  
Paladins can OOC res in the kiting phase - right by the controller is a good place for the OOC resser to stand.
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We don't know who will be alive. We aren't even sure who will be the secondary tank but we should have a good idea, a few seconds at least. Do not stand at 40 yards of the people you are healing. Positioning is fluid, the conflag bait moves around a lot. 30 yards is probably better. The conflag bait is completely helpless in the conflag. Can't drink, can't use specials can't control movements. They will suck your mana but you want to them alive to help control the fight. The secondary tank will take damage like they do from any other raid boss, they take a lot of healing too. Your class leader will give you assignments. Be ready to be fluid though. Keeping the conflag bait and the secondary tank alive is your prirmary goal. If one of them dies it is likely a wipe, though we are trying to set things up so that we can recover.  
  
Priests try to avoid healing in the kiting phase. We assign 2 priests to the kiting warriors, who follow them around and use renew on them (again, avoid anything else due to aggro issues). All other Priests - use Mind Control on any Legionnaires that hit the damage crew, or on enemy mages, or else dps a little, following the dps calls. Once 40 mobs have entered the room, Mind Controlling one mob will cause it to despawn when it's released, so aggro is not a concern there. Don't forget to Psychic Scream if things start going badly and too many Legionnaires are in the center of the room tearing up the DPS. No priests should be healing in phase 1 except for the kite priests.
 
  
Our kiters are warriors (hopefully ones with speed enchants on their boots!). Warriors use AoE taunt to gather the mobs onto them, and circle the room kiting their pack of mobs. Towards the end of the fight, Priests often end up kiting as well, since they will get aggro from healing, and they can use psychic scream to buy some time while kiting.
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If the conflag bait dies, the secondary tank will end up being the new conflag bait, and hopefully the designated tertiary tank will still be 3rd on the aggro list to be secondary tank, but that is hard to tell. So be ready for a call of "Heals on XXX" whoever we call to heal is tanking.  
  
Damage classes stay in the center, where the eggs are. We have two dps callers, one for the even groups and one for the odd groups. Each dps caller is assigned a platform, and they call dps to kill the mages that spawn on their platform. Mages can use sheep if there is more than one mage spawned. Typically, there is a roaming warrior who also calls dps when needed, on mobs that make it down to the center where the damage classes are positioned. The goal for the DPS is to eliminate all the enemy mages, so that all that's left are Dragonkin and Legionnaires; these can be kited around the room by the kite warriors until the eggs are destroyed.  
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If the conflag or the secondary tank dies, DPS has to stop unless Razor is nearly dead. Hunters FD, rogues vanish or stay alive to die before a healer does.  
  
Once we're fighting Razorgore himself, we have the MT drag him to a corner. Since his conflag is cone-based, the OT stays at a 90-degree angle to where he faces, to build secondary aggro while staying out of the conflag. Razorgore uses a volley of fire that hits everyone in range, so stay out of range (or line of sight, for healers) if possible. Damage is important here, but damage classes need to be careful of pulling aggro. Treat this part of the fight like Phase 1 Onyxia... put out as much damage as possible, but don't forget to use feint/feign cycles to shed aggro.
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The warriors who may step up to tanking don't stop, they keep building that aggro. Cancel salvation if you have to. We know that if he doesn't turn on that 3rd warrior that he is likely looking at a healer in this fight because of how much healing has to be done, he might just munch on a rogue or two on the way, I think that vanishing is a better idea. If a mage or lock or a hunter whose feign is resisted gets aggro, head to the tanking corner. Healers try to spread out so that you don't all get conflagged when he comes for one of you. I'm still hoping that another warrior can stay third but without any rage being generated from taking damage it isn't as likely.
  
 
Healing strat on Razorgore: ODD GROUP HEALERS will heal the main tank. EVEN GROUP HEALERS will heal the secondary tank. If either of these die in phase 1, we will call out new MT/ST players, so stay alert. Aggro will bounce between the MT and ST during phase 2, as Razorgore conflagrates them and they temporarily drop aggro. So technically, we have two MTs to take care of.
 
Healing strat on Razorgore: ODD GROUP HEALERS will heal the main tank. EVEN GROUP HEALERS will heal the secondary tank. If either of these die in phase 1, we will call out new MT/ST players, so stay alert. Aggro will bounce between the MT and ST during phase 2, as Razorgore conflagrates them and they temporarily drop aggro. So technically, we have two MTs to take care of.

Revision as of 13:25, 18 January 2006

Overview

Blackwing Lair is located in BRM. If you've been to UBRS, you may have noticed a corridor with a (green) raid portal down one of the corridors. Like Molten Core, there is an easier way to enter once you've been attuned. The attunement quest is listed here. Basically, you have to kill the Quartermaster outside BRS and loot a note off of him, then kill the General in UBRS and interact with the orb behind him. Once you have done that, the orb behind the Quartermaster will take you to BWL if you're in a raid group.

Attunement

Map(s)

Area map of Blackwing Lair

Quests

None?

Bosses & Items

Razorgore the Untamed

Vaelastrasz the Corrupt

Broodlord Lashlayer

This boss reduces his aggro against melee throughout this fight. This leads to aggro issues for ranged classes.

Firemaw

Ebonroc

Flamegor

Chromaggus

Nefarian

      Rewards - Master Dragonslayer's Medallion - Necklace - +14 Agi, +24 Sta, Equip: +7 Defense.
                Master Dragonslayer's Orb - Off Hand - +10 Sta, +14 Int, Equip: Increase Dmg & Healing up to 28.
                Master Dragonslayer's Ring - Ring - +14 Sta, Equip: +44 Attack Power, + 1% to hit.

Strategies

Razorgore the Untamed

Razorgore

Razorgore is the first encounter in BWL and the first boss encounter. The fight is very complex and the roles for many classes are quite different than in any of the Molten Core boss fights. The raid in this fight is like a line of dominoes; if just one person goes down, the fight can be unrecoverable.

The goal of the fight is to destroy all the eggs while controlling the mobs that spawn. The mages are killed as they spawn, and the non-mage mobs are kited around the room, while someone uses the orb to control Razorgore. Razorgore has an ability that allows him to break the eggs, which the controller uses as soon as it is available. Once all the eggs are destroyed, all of the mobs that have been kited will run out of the room and Razorgore will become uncontrollable. At this point, Razorgore is killed.

Tichondrius notes

Kudos to Champain on Tich for compiling this guide!

The layout

This is a badly drawn but hopefully understandable picture of Razorgore's room and the important positions. It might be useful refer to this as you go through the strategy.

The Beginning

The room is filled with eggs. Two guards and a controller stand on the platform in the southwest edge of the room next to the controller orb and Razorgore stands on the platform on the northeast side of the room. The raid begins positioned in the south corner.

We begin by gun pulling each guard and the controller to the raid. As soon as the pull happens, the first orb controller has to immediately start channeling the orb. This is not done on the platform. The orb can be accessed and channeled from the ground below the platform.

The initial three mobs aren't tough. A warrior is assigned to each one and the raid just assists the MA to kill each in turn. One of them does cast mind control that will need to be dispelled by priests. When the mobs are down the four mage kill groups move into their positions, hunters and warlocks and druids spread out to cover the spawn points and shamen place their totems and get ready to kite. There is a small delay between this and the first spawns.

From this point its easiest to cover the roles of each class sperately.

Druids, warlocks, hunters

These three classes are responsible for controlling and kiting the dragon kin. Druids must choose one and keep it slept for the duration, hunters put a hunter's mark on one dragon kin per hunter and take responsibility for kiting it and warlocks choose one and chain fear it. Each person from any of these three classes is responsible for controlling one dragonkin.

It is also important to establish a little bit of aggro through whatever means to make sure your dragonkin is chasing you and not one of the shamen or healers. Dragonkin aren't affected by earthbind, but they move slowly and it shouldn't be too tough to evade them. If it gets close, run up the ramp to the platform and wait for the dragonkin to get right up on the platform too. You can jump off but the dragonkin can't and will have to move down the ramp, giving you some breathing room.

Mage kill groups

Since the mages can AOE, they are the only mobs that are killed instead of kited. One group made out of warriors, rogues, mages and priests is located at each of the four spawn points. As soon as a mage spawns, it should be jumped and killed as fast as possible. They are fully stunnable and interuptable, so kick and pummel should be used libreally. If more than one spawns at one point at once, the extra can be polymorphed.

Priests should be heaing as lightly as possible. One greater heal is probably enough to get you jumped by the kited dragonkin, so keep healing to a minimum. It may feel counter intuitive to stand around with full mana, but its about the only way to stay alive. Keep inner fire up on yourself and be ready to shield and fade if necessary. Although you don't play much of a role during the kiting, as much healing as possible is needed for killing razorgore.

Shamen

Shamen have the most crucial role in the first part of this fight. It is your job to aggro a bunch of legionaires and kite them in a path around the darker square pattern on the floor. You will be assigned a totem position and you have to replace the totem there everytime your cooldown is up and you pass the position.

As the legionaires spawn, you fire off an earthshock to establish aggro on the mob, but don't stop. As it moves into earthbind radius it is slowed and you can comfortably keep ahead. Now, more legionaires will spawn and you need to keep pinging them with earthshock to keep the aggro going.

If you are dazed, you're dead. Strafeing instead of running straight can help you avoid this, but you should have a supply of swiftness potions just in case of emergency. No one will be healing you, so there is very little room for error. Shamen have the toughest job for this part of the fight and it will take them a while to learn how to do it. So have some patience guys

The Orb Controllers

A rogue will start off as the orb controller. He will position himself beside the platform under the orb and as soon as the pull happens begin to channel the orb. This will give him control of Razorgore and the ability to use his skills.

The most important of these is break egg. It has a five second cooldown and must be used to destroy every egg in the room. Between breaking eggs, Razor can sleep dragonkin. This should be cast on any dragon running around without a mark over its head. Every time the break egg skill is up, it has to be used as quickly as possible.

The channeling on the orb lasts one minute. The rogue should make sure that when the channeling is about to expire, Razorgore is on the other side of the room, so that there is time to rechannel before Razor comes and wafflystomps him. As soon as it is channeled, the orb debuffs the channeler, making it impossible for that person to start channeling again till at least one minute has passed, so its important that it lasts the full duration.

Midfight

There will be many dragonkin running around being kited, feared and slept. There will be many many legionaires swirling around the earthbind totems in the middle of the room and shamen running for their lives. All the mages will be dead and the spawns will have stopped. At this point in the fight, the raid is balanced on a knife edge. If a shaman goes down, squads of legionaires are going to run free and start eating people for dinner.

To get things under control, a warrior will take over channeling the orb and the rogue will vanish to lose Razorgore's aggro. The warrior walks Razorgore into the middle of the swirling mass of legionaires and does a big AOE, pulling them all onto him. The legionaires kill Razorgore very quickly, so the warrior must control him and try to group them all up as much as possible and as far away from the orb as possible. He will then relinquish control of the orb.

When he does this, all of the legionaires will come after him. Since he was controlling Razorgore when he AOE'd, the aggro this generated is transferred directly to him. He is now kiting the whole group of legionaires. Shamen need to move to their totem location, start regenerating mana and keep their totems up. All other warriors with piercing howl should be casting it around the fringes of the legionaires as back up for the totems.

When the main physical tank lets go of the orb, the main fire tank takes control. He is responsible for controlling Razorgore until the last eggs are broken.

End fight- All eggs broken

As soon as the last egg is broken, all of the dragon kin and legionaires flee the room through the western gate. Razorgore becomes uncontrollable and goes nuts. The first person he will come for is the last person who controlled the orb-- controlling the orb causes a large amount of aggro. If all went well, that person should be the main fire tank. He will pop shieldwall right away to give healers a chance to recover and will pull Razorgore into the south corner.

The main physical tank will be second on the aggro list. He moves in to Razorgore and stands on the opposite side of him to the main tank and starts building aggro. Pretty soon Razorgore will cast conflagrate, just like General Drakkisath, the end boss in UBRS. When he does this, he will turn to the main physical tank and start attacking him.

Conflagrate will break after 5-10 seconds and the main fire tank taunts Razorgore back, and so on.

Two priests are assigned to healing the fire tank and the rest look after the main physical tank. Ranged and melee DPS need to be aware of Razorgore's fire AOE which does about 600-1000 damage per bolt and goes off every 5-10 seconds. Once the fuight is stabalised, its just a matter of burning him down. The main challenge is to keep enough of the raid alive long enough to get all the eggs broken.

General tips

  • All classes in the mage kill groups need to keep their aggro to a minimum
  • Limited invulnerability potions are extremely useful
  • If the raid wipes, run back. Don't waste soulstones, don't ankh and don't wait for a res!
  • When he dies, the gate to Vael will open. Be ready ro run through and catch the six goblins, three on each side of Vael's head. These guys drop elementium, but you have to be very quick to get them all.
  • Be ready to face a massive repair bill. It takes a long time to learn this fight and once you do, its a beautiful thing. Till then its a bloody expensive mess.
  • Learn to play your class!!!!


Stormrage notes

Our strategy is a modified 4-corner strat.

We split the raid into 4 teams. Each team occupies one corner. Team A is groups 1 and 2 who go west Team B is groups 3 and 4 who go south Team C is groups 5 and 6 who go north Team D is groups 7 and 8 who go east

The exception to this is the one paladin and the one warrior who will control razorgore. I will try to put them in group 1 and balance accordingly.

The healers are also going to be living in the middle of the room. This is so that if they get aggro it's much easier to tell. We will still have two kiting warriors and 4 mage killing warriors.

PHASE I (Break the Eggs)

Orb Team I've thought about putting a paladin as the conflag bait. It all depends on how much healing with think we have and if we can afford to lose a paladin on healing. I know in some Ony battles and even in a few Razor attempts it was the paladins who were doing the bulk of the healing since the druids and priests were dead. However the person who breaks the last egg is essentially just conflag bait. The requirements are very high FR and some heavier armor for the two or 3 physical hits you might get when you come out of the conflag. Paladins look to fit this bill.

The controller team is a warrior with a paladin back-up (as FR gear climbs it could very well just be a paladin or two). A priest will make sure PW:S is up at all times just in case something goes wrong. Many times this is a waste of mana, but sometimes it is vital. The paladin back-up will act as an OOC rezbot as well since reports are that waiting around as a back-up controller and doing nothing will often drop you out of combat. You generally have 2-3 seconds to warn that the back-up controller will be needed so breaking a rez and running back to the orb are doable. If you get thrown in combat oh well.

DPS A rogue in each team is appointed Main Assist, Mages, Hunters, Warlocks, Paladins, and Rogues in the team will help kill the mage they target.

Warriors You get to kite the legionaires and the dragonkin. We might change the dragonkin strat later to having hunters kite one each and druids sleep one each. We might decided that the corner warriors are going to try and help tank and kill everything as it spawns.

There will be a warrior in each corner and two warriors in the middle. Corner warriors will act as DPS if there is just a mage, tank the mobs if can, if we think we can keep up with the spawn rate then you tank every thing while DPS kills it based off the rogue MA calls.. However assuming the spawn rate is the same as it has always been your main job is to try and get early mobs and kite them. Pick them up and start kiting. I'm not overly concerned about kite paths right now since 6 warriors should end up kiting. I do want you guys to try and space out though so that pick up is fast as possible.

The two warriors in the middle will be limited healer protection and orb controller protection. If a mage gets in there, pick it up, shield bash or pummel it and get it to a kill zone. If a lego or dragonkin ends up in there taunt it, but try not to put too much aggro on it and see if you can get it near a kite path. I know that taunt gives you all of 2 seconds of top of hate list but since those mobs might be getting CC'd or you want them on another kiter you have to try and keep aggro low. If a couple mobs come in at once, one of you picks them both up and you just become a kiter. This is why it is limited protection but the idea is to keep the healers from having to use their own tricks as long as possible.

Healers Paladins are not counted as primary healers for this phase. They can get in the thick of the corners to do what they can for DPS and tanking. They can heal, but won't be in the center spot with the primary healers.

The druids and priests will be trying to stay as close to the middle of the room as they can while staying in healing range. You not only get to do what you can for DPS but you get to try and keep the kiters up too. Druids should still try to hibernate dragonkin, but we will also be looking to them to heal the kiting warriors. We've seen that the kiters don't lose aggro on their packs and the warriors like HoT's. Druids have two HoT's and rejuv is slightly slower flash flash heal + HoT. Priests healing DPS can still fade to drop aggro till that mob is dead. Ideally, we will have enough control to keep stuff out of the middle for quite some time. If possible, in addition to the priest who is ready to shield the controller, a priest should be ready to shield the kiters.

PHASE II (Kill Razorgore)

When all the eggs are broken the room clears and phase 2 begins. Everyone except for two warriors and the conflag bait should stop doing anything that might generate aggro (Fade/Feint/Feign Death are a good idea here). Razorgore will head to the person who broke the last egg, but he might have reason to turn around suddenly after that. Read on.

Tanking The warrior (or possibly paladin) who broke the last egg will end up being the "MT" the one person who has the most aggro on Razorgore. However they are not the one who is really controlling Razor. They will run to the North corner of the room and Razor will come after them. This means that everyone in the North needs to clear out of that corner fast (I suggest up the ramp). Razorgore's conflag is a frontal cone and it has a decent range there is a good chance that he will fire this off before getting in melee range with the bait.

The ST will be a warrior who simply lays into Razor as fast as possible. There will be 2 other warriors (the secondary and tertiary tanks) who get as close to Razor as possible when the last egg is going down and they lay into him. Sunder, revenge, shield slam, shield bash. Generate aggro as fast as you can because when that conflag hits the bait you want to be second and 3rd on the hate list. Whoever lands the first sunder gets to call out on TS that they are second tank. The other warrior should try to build aggro a little slower to make sure that they are only 3rd. I want 2 warriors for this because I want Razor controlled as fast as possible and I want any damage he does directed at warriors as best we can. Two people trying to get aggro ups our chances of this.

You want to try and stand 90 degrees to the MT. Razor will be facing the corner so you should be on the side by the door to Vael's room (NW). Keep in mind the conflag bait will be running around and can travel pretty far. Razor will conflag them again anywhere from immediately after conflag wears off to a few seconds after. Be aware and stay the hell away from the conflag cone.

The tertiary tank will end up being with the other melee DPS.

DPS IF YOU GET AGGRO BEFORE RAZOR IS UNDER CONTROL AND ARE NOT CONFLAGGED RUN TO THE TANKING CORNER!

Melee DPS You do nothing until you see that the secondary tank has aggro, at that point you attack. Melee DPS will be standing across from the conflag bait tank and 90 degrees to the the secondary tank (backs directly to the center of the room). You all need to be aware that Razor will shift and that the conflag tank has no control over where he will stop. Be aware. Stay out of the conflag cone. If you get conflagged, you are dead. You will not get healing, there will not be any healing for you.

Ranged DPS You do nothing until you see that the secondary tank has aggro, at that point you attack. Razor can teleport people to him that are out of range and have aggro be aware of that. There is a range on the fireball volley (FR gear does help, yes) and you can sometimes duck behind objects to avoid it. Hunters will use Feign Death cycles.

Healing We don't know who will be alive. We aren't even sure who will be the secondary tank but we should have a good idea, a few seconds at least. Do not stand at 40 yards of the people you are healing. Positioning is fluid, the conflag bait moves around a lot. 30 yards is probably better. The conflag bait is completely helpless in the conflag. Can't drink, can't use specials can't control movements. They will suck your mana but you want to them alive to help control the fight. The secondary tank will take damage like they do from any other raid boss, they take a lot of healing too. Your class leader will give you assignments. Be ready to be fluid though. Keeping the conflag bait and the secondary tank alive is your prirmary goal. If one of them dies it is likely a wipe, though we are trying to set things up so that we can recover.


Notes If the conflag bait dies, the secondary tank will end up being the new conflag bait, and hopefully the designated tertiary tank will still be 3rd on the aggro list to be secondary tank, but that is hard to tell. So be ready for a call of "Heals on XXX" whoever we call to heal is tanking.

If the conflag or the secondary tank dies, DPS has to stop unless Razor is nearly dead. Hunters FD, rogues vanish or stay alive to die before a healer does.

The warriors who may step up to tanking don't stop, they keep building that aggro. Cancel salvation if you have to. We know that if he doesn't turn on that 3rd warrior that he is likely looking at a healer in this fight because of how much healing has to be done, he might just munch on a rogue or two on the way, I think that vanishing is a better idea. If a mage or lock or a hunter whose feign is resisted gets aggro, head to the tanking corner. Healers try to spread out so that you don't all get conflagged when he comes for one of you. I'm still hoping that another warrior can stay third but without any rage being generated from taking damage it isn't as likely.

Healing strat on Razorgore: ODD GROUP HEALERS will heal the main tank. EVEN GROUP HEALERS will heal the secondary tank. If either of these die in phase 1, we will call out new MT/ST players, so stay alert. Aggro will bounce between the MT and ST during phase 2, as Razorgore conflagrates them and they temporarily drop aggro. So technically, we have two MTs to take care of.

Vaelastrasz the Corrupt

Kudos to Champain on Tich for compiling this guide!

Vaelestrasz the Corrupt

Vael is the second boss in Blackwing Lair and is a really unique fight. He requires a very different play style than any other boss and is a lot of fun. But he is also one of the most difficult fights to master. Due to BA targeting the fight has large luck componenet that can become very frustrating.

The Buffs

At the beginning of the fight Vael will buff everyone with the Essence of Red buff. This amazing buff adds 500 mana per tick, 20 rage or forty energy and lasts for three minutes. Effectively, this buff gives you unlimited resources for the three minutes it is in effect. If it times out and Vael still isn't dead, you're in big trouble.

Vael also has a pulsing fire damage AOE, dealing 600 fire damage per tick. This one doesn't have a time limit, but each pulse is resistable. Minimising the damage form this aoe is the rason fire resistance gear is required. If the healers lose their essence of the red, they will swiftly run out of mana trying to keep people healed. The pulses also interrupt casting, greatly reducing the effectiveness of any casters with channeled spells, as they will be getting constant interrupts.

Burning adrenaline is the other crazy buff. This makes all spells instant cast and double damage and is cast only on the person on top of his aggro list (the tank hopefully) and random mana users throughout the fight. Sounds good? Yeah. But not for long. Your maximum health is reduced by 5% per tick for 15 seconds, and then you explode in a tribute to Baron Geddon. Just like Geddon's living bomb, you will deal big aoe damage to everyone around you, so as soon as you get the buff move to the empty areas behind Vael's tail or next to the stairwells on either side of the tank position. You get a CTRA warning and your name will be caled in TS. Be ready to move!

Positioning

The positioning on Vael is similar to Onyxia. Vael has a frontal aoe and a tailswipe so the raid has to stay to either side of him. One the east side, there will be all the ranged dps, the rogues and the the healers not in the warrior groups. In the west, the warriors and everyone in warrior groups.

How the Fight Goes The start

The first tank will engage in the maintank position and immediately begin mashing his sunder armour and heroic strike keys to build crazy aggro fast. All other warriors will hold off for a couple of seconds then begin doing the same. The idea is to keep all the warriors on top of the aggro list to allow the aggro to switch to another warrior when the tank goes down.

Shamen and any spare druids are on tank healing. Turn your CTRA heal cancel off because you have unlimited mana and spam your quickest dirtiest heals on the tank. Most priests and druids will be assigned to healing their party. Priests are particularly good at this as prayer of healing is perfect. Priests should be able to toss heals to the main tank pretty frequently. Priests, remember to shield yourself and the shaman in your group whenever you can to enable uninterupted casting. Druids have it tougher; keep rolling through everyone in your group healing as well as you can. You shouldn't have too much keeping yourself and four others up.

All dps guys should be going as hard as possible without pulling aggro. Keeping the damage going like crazy is key; Vael has to be dead in the three minutes.

Periodically, a mana user will be hit with BA, hopefully not a healer. If you get BA, move to a safe zone and chain cast your spells. Make the most of your crazy dps while it lasts. If BA kills you, you don't have take a durability hit, so rejoice!

The First Transition

45 seconds into the fight, when Vael is at about 22-23% the person on top of the aggro list, the first tank, will get burning adrenaline. This is effectively a 10 second warning that the tank is about to die and that the second tank is about to get aggro. Rogues should immediately vanish to clear their aggro, hunters should feign and priests should fade. Everyone else should ease off for a few seconds to ensure the warriors are next on the list.

The tank's max health will be slowly lowering and lowering. Before long, one tick of the fire dot Vael puts on the tank will do more damage than the tank has life, and the first tank will bite the dust. The second tank will then take aggro and Vael will turn to face that warrior.

This is the tricky part. The shamen need to switch targets to heal the warrior using either a /assist Vael macro or using the Maintank's target's target windows. Either way, the heals will ahve to start landing very fast or the tank is going to get a close up view of the Blackwing mason's workmanship. The new tank will also have to very quickly move into the main tank position. If he is too slow, casters may get tail whipped and the other warriors may be cleaved or flame breathed. Any of these will spell the end of the attempt. The move has to be very very quick.

If you aren't the warrior who gets aggro, take it easy for a few seconds to that aggro doesn't bounce back and forwards between you and the new tank.

The Rest of the Fight

Everyone maxes their dps and keeps burning him down. Every 45 seconds the tanking warrior will be hit with burning adrenaline and another transition needs to happen. This will be identical to the first, minus the vanishes. All rests on the ability of the healers to switch targets and the warriors to take aggro and move into position quickly.

Warriors, remember to bring a fast one hander. Chaining very quick heroic strikes and sunder is the easiest and best way to build some crazy aggro.

Death Talon Packs


There are 2 sets of these in the next room after Vaelastrasz the Corrupt they comprise of the following (listed known possible epics also):

Death Talon Flamescale

Death Talon Captain

Death Talon Seether

Death Talon Wyrmkin

The packs always have 1 Captain and 1-3 each Seether, Flamescale and Wyrmkin to make a total of 6 mobs in the pack.

The main body will stay in Vaelstrasz's room, while the Main Tank (MT), designated Off Tanks (OT), Druids and Hunters will go upstairs to the entranceway of the room that contains the Death Talon Packs. Usually the MT (can be anyone in the initial pulling party) assigns targets as follows (also listed in order of pwnage): **Note, not covering healing roles at this point, by now the healers should be experienced enough in 40 man raids to work it out :); and all I know about healing is HEAL ME.

  • Death Talon Captain - This target is assigned to the MT, once pull starts, agro is achieved and the MT jumps down to Vael's room to the main body. The Captain is the first mob killed.
  • Death Talon Flamescale - Designated OT(s) are assigned to these, once pull starts, they will agro their perspective target and then jump down to Vael's room. These are killed after the Captain, if there are multiple Flamescales the Main Assist (MA) will designate which one is killed 1st.
  • Death Talon Seether - Designated hunters will kite their assigned target around the room, utilizing the ramps to get the Seethers up above main body as much of the time as possible. It helps to turn off all tracking and put a hunter's mark on your target, the only blip on your minimap will be the Seether. You need to tag the Seether occasionally, to keep agro, which may lead to it getting a little close, as they do have a fireblast that does around 1500-1700 damage; you may want to use Aspect of Cheetah for brief periods (careful in using as if you get blasted you may get stunned) or Swiftness Potions to get a little bit of separation. These are killed one at a time, MT or MA will designate which one is to be killed 1st if there are multiple Seethers, the other one(s) are kited until the hunter is notified it's his turn.
  • Death Talon Wyrmkin - Designated Druid(s) sleep the Wyrmkin when the pull begins, and continue sleeping the assigned Wyrmkin until all other dragonkin are killed. The MT or MA will designate which one is to be killed 1st if ther are multiple Wyrmkin, the other(s) are slept until the druid is notified it's his turn.

Rinse and repeat for the second pack!!!

Suppression Room(s)


Your raid should stay in a tight group, ranged attackers should never go left or ahead of your group and should always use minimum range required for attacking. In some cases your ranged attackers may have to melee or use close range spells as it is extremely important not to pull adds if at all possible.

You start by placing your group just inside the door on the left edge of the first suppression room. First mobs to be peeled off should be the roaming Hatcher or Taskmaster group, just take the first one available with a clean pull. This gives you some breathing room to start proceeding down the right side. Follows is a brief description of items/mobs you will need to interact with or kill, then some basic strategies.

Suppression device

These devices give you a very nasty aura - it reduces your run speed, attack speed and cast speed. This is where your rogues come into play, with their disarm trap skill they can disable the suppression device for a period of time. Keep in good contact with your rogues so that you don’t run the whole raid into a suppression device.

The Whelps

The whelps can hit hard, but go down fairly easy to AoE spells, this is where your mages and warlocks shine for this portion of BWL, and even hunters can use volley here to help with taking them down quicker.

The Hatchers

These hatchers aren’t as easy as the whelps, they have and ability called Growing Flames - it’s a short proximity area of effect flamestrike, with one difference. It doesn’t do that much damage in the beginning (around 50 fire damage) but stay in the affected area and it will climb up to 1000+ damage per tick very fast, so tank the hatchers a few yards away from the ranged dps and healers. The melee based classes will be affected by the growing flames so the faster you kill the hatcher the better.

Blackwing Taskmasters

This is a group of 3 Orcs patrolling the entire area, once it’s time to pull them make sure you sheep two of them and kill the remainder, lots of time the groups are 1 male/2 female or 1 female/2male, pick the odd one out for quick selection.

Basic Strategies Proceed down the right wall utilizing the alcoves when possible; the reason not to clear the left side of the room is because the warlock AoE can reach the second floor and pull all the mobs up there. Once you clear the a section designated by your raid leader, move with your raid to the other end of the room fast, you might get a few adds or pops on the way there but the mages can handle that pretty easily.

Keep a minimum of one rogue stealthed around your raid in case a suppression device should repop, they should be fast to disarm it again. The most important thing is to keep it moving once started; here are some recommended spots to take short (very short breaks); first one is in the first alcove on the right wall, second one is on the ramp up to the next floor, third one is in the first corner on the second floor (again on the right-hand side) and finally the alcove on the right hand wall, the next to last alcove before broodlord. Send a few rogues before the raid to get down the suppression devices and have hunters or MT pull the packs in front of you to clear the way; note you don’t want to kill more mobs than you have to, so keep it to a minimum and stick to the right-hand wall at all times until you reach the first alcove on the right hand side. Once there you’ll also see broodlord, be very careful here he has a huge aggro range and can also detect the sneaky rogues, don’t get closer to him than necessary.

Broodlord Lashlayer

Firemaw

Ebonroc

Flamegor

Chromaggus

Nefarian