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=== Preperation ===
 
=== Preperation ===
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From Tin's excellent post in the Fighter Classes Strategy Boards.
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'''Intro:'''
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Welcome,
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There has been a number of discussion going on both on the forums and in game these last few weeks to do with class performance in large raids like MC and Onyxia. Discussion so far has been very possitive, and with each class having it's own raid channel in MC where advice has been offered by all, everyone who's come regularly on MC has had plenty of time to learn their role now that we've made it to Rag.
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You may have noticed there are no dps threads up at the moment in the raid leader forum. The reason for this, has been that all the topics people could think to bring up were discussed. If you haven't yet looked at these threads, it may be worth a look if your running or plan to run in MC as lot's of helpful advice has been laid down.
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Now with Ragnaros looming around the corner, there is going to be a lot more focus put on people reaching certain expectations in their class, as it's an increadibly difficult encounter. Not to say the focus will be Efficiency>fun, on the contrary, people should play their character with the spec they want, and to their own style. What's going to be needed is for players to look at what others are doing to reach that next level, such as what buffs are used, what potions, what special items or trinkets.
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So bellow is listed many of the items used on a regular basis by myself and others and which are really not difficult to gather for a once a week instance run. Also, strategies will be listed from my experiences that work to help keep you alive. Most of these will apply mainly to the melee classes, specifically Rogues, but I'm sure there something in here for everyone.
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A last note, the following list of buffs are not expected to be used throughout the raid unless you want too. We know many people have limited play time and may only be able to get a few supplies, which is fine. The items will become important mainly for Ragnaros fights.
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'''Felwood'''
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[http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~strabu1/index.html/WoWScrnShot_080805_205513.jpg Here is a map of felwood spawns of items, and a legend.]
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The way these spawns work one of 2 ways. The spawns located on the map are on random timers, they will either 1. be there and corrupted 2. Be there and cleansed 3. Be there and already harvested or 4. not there at all. It's completely random and changes every few hours.
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You either do the quest shown called [http://www.thotbott.com/?q=1087 Cleansing Felwood] which gives you a [http://www.thotbott.com/?i=2936 Cenarion Beacon] that let's you gather a variety of Corrupted items from either killing fellwood mobs, mining, or gathering herbs. You hand in the items for [http://www.thotbott.com/?i=2948 Cenarion plant salve] which cleanses the Corrupted plants.
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Or, you can just pop down there now and then to check if there are any cleansed spawns up or harvested ones. usually, the harvested ones come back cleansed in about 25 minutes. If you harvest a cleansed one, it will usually come back cleansed in 25 minutes. So I hunt the northern satyr's which has a night dragons and a whipper root spawn, and 2 other whipper root spawns near by as you can see on the map.
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Yellow squares: [http://www.thotbott.com/?i=4841 Wild Blossom Berries] which are 10 stam for 10 minutes food. it's free, it's there.
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Red squares: [http://www.thotbott.com/?i=6414 Night dragon's breath] 400 - 500 life and mana, usable every minute, on a seperate timer to potions.
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Purple squares: [http://www.thotbott.com/?i=2959 Whipper root tuber] 700 - 900 life, usable every minute, on a seperate timer to potions.
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[http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~strabu1/index.html/WoWScrnShot_080805_205513.jpg Map of Fellwood]
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Also of note, are the [http://www.thotbott.com/?i=5907 Demonic Rune] usable every 2 minutes, which can be collected from the Orc's in Jaedenar around the middle of the map. For Mana users, used in combination with Night dragon's breath can be a powerfull engine of destruction. Darkfirenova kindly tested this for me in MC last week against Garr, and found a huge % increase in damage.
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'''Winterspring'''
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A couple of great buffs here, one of which is quest related. The NPC for this is in the little Troll area in Oggrimar where you are ported too by a mage portal, and where the first aid trainer is. She's on one of the stones in the water. the quest is [http://www.thotbott.com/?q=12912 Winterfall E'ko]. You recieve a necklace you keep in your inventory like the Cenarion Beacon from fellwood. When you kill certain mobs, Eko will drop. Different Eko is traded to her for different buffs.
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The [http://www.thotbott.com/?q=12912 Winterall Furbolgs] drop Winterfall Eko. Trading 3 of these in gives you 3x JuJu Power.
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As a bonus, these Furbolgs also drop [http://www.thotbott.com/?i=37541 Winterfall Firewater]
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'''Blasted Lands'''
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The simple way to explain this is as follows. When you enter blasted lands from swamp of sorrows, there is a line of NPC's to your right not far into the zone. 2 of them will have a number of quests for you to gather different bodyparts from different creatures in blasted lands.
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It's a very simple grind to collect them and hand them in. You will get a reward of 1 different buff for each quest, and a new quest will be available to you now which is a repeatable quest to get that buff again.
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The buffs are linked bellow. You can only own 1 of each type of buff, so you can't get a stack of 5 R.O.I.D's for example. You can only have 1 buff active at one time, the others will go on a 1 hour timer when you apply 1.
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=6219 R.O.I.D's]
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=5175 Ground Scorpok Assay]
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=6228 Lung Juice]
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'''Potions of note'''
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=14407 Elixer of the mongoose]
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=37774 Combat Healing Potion]
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=3783 Greater Healing Potion]
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=2973 Superior Healing Potion]
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=2941 Major Healing Potion]
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=7619 Fire Protection Potion]
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=5390 Greater Fire Protection]
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'''Things you can apply to your weapons'''
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In these, I think Dense sharpening stones are the best value for trash mobs. Dense stone is cheap and easy to get, and they can't be resisted like poison, but the choice is up to the rogue. For Boss's like Rag I think the Elemental sharpening stones will be a good investment.
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=13107 Instant Poison VI] Made by rogues, and only used by rogues.
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=36214 Elemental Sharpening Stones] Farm Elemental earth from low level rock elementals in Bad lands and Dense stone is from thorium viens and can be crafted by Asta of the Basin.
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[http://www.thotbott.com/?i=4644 Dense Sharpening Stones] Dense stone is from Thorium viens and is crafted by blacksmiths.
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That's it for now. Over the next few weeks try to collect some, have a play around with it in MC and get a feel for using them a little, but build up a supply for Ragnaros attempts down the road please. I'll add a strat section to this later, just wanted to get this information out as quick as I could.
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Thanks
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- Tin
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=== General Tips ===
 
=== General Tips ===

Revision as of 15:03, 6 October 2005

What/Where is MC?

Attunement

Signing Up

Preperation

From Tin's excellent post in the Fighter Classes Strategy Boards.

Intro:

Welcome,

There has been a number of discussion going on both on the forums and in game these last few weeks to do with class performance in large raids like MC and Onyxia. Discussion so far has been very possitive, and with each class having it's own raid channel in MC where advice has been offered by all, everyone who's come regularly on MC has had plenty of time to learn their role now that we've made it to Rag.


You may have noticed there are no dps threads up at the moment in the raid leader forum. The reason for this, has been that all the topics people could think to bring up were discussed. If you haven't yet looked at these threads, it may be worth a look if your running or plan to run in MC as lot's of helpful advice has been laid down.


Now with Ragnaros looming around the corner, there is going to be a lot more focus put on people reaching certain expectations in their class, as it's an increadibly difficult encounter. Not to say the focus will be Efficiency>fun, on the contrary, people should play their character with the spec they want, and to their own style. What's going to be needed is for players to look at what others are doing to reach that next level, such as what buffs are used, what potions, what special items or trinkets.

So bellow is listed many of the items used on a regular basis by myself and others and which are really not difficult to gather for a once a week instance run. Also, strategies will be listed from my experiences that work to help keep you alive. Most of these will apply mainly to the melee classes, specifically Rogues, but I'm sure there something in here for everyone.

A last note, the following list of buffs are not expected to be used throughout the raid unless you want too. We know many people have limited play time and may only be able to get a few supplies, which is fine. The items will become important mainly for Ragnaros fights.

Felwood

Here is a map of felwood spawns of items, and a legend.

The way these spawns work one of 2 ways. The spawns located on the map are on random timers, they will either 1. be there and corrupted 2. Be there and cleansed 3. Be there and already harvested or 4. not there at all. It's completely random and changes every few hours.

You either do the quest shown called Cleansing Felwood which gives you a Cenarion Beacon that let's you gather a variety of Corrupted items from either killing fellwood mobs, mining, or gathering herbs. You hand in the items for Cenarion plant salve which cleanses the Corrupted plants.

Or, you can just pop down there now and then to check if there are any cleansed spawns up or harvested ones. usually, the harvested ones come back cleansed in about 25 minutes. If you harvest a cleansed one, it will usually come back cleansed in 25 minutes. So I hunt the northern satyr's which has a night dragons and a whipper root spawn, and 2 other whipper root spawns near by as you can see on the map.


Yellow squares: Wild Blossom Berries which are 10 stam for 10 minutes food. it's free, it's there. Red squares: Night dragon's breath 400 - 500 life and mana, usable every minute, on a seperate timer to potions. Purple squares: Whipper root tuber 700 - 900 life, usable every minute, on a seperate timer to potions.

Map of Fellwood

Also of note, are the Demonic Rune usable every 2 minutes, which can be collected from the Orc's in Jaedenar around the middle of the map. For Mana users, used in combination with Night dragon's breath can be a powerfull engine of destruction. Darkfirenova kindly tested this for me in MC last week against Garr, and found a huge % increase in damage.

Winterspring

A couple of great buffs here, one of which is quest related. The NPC for this is in the little Troll area in Oggrimar where you are ported too by a mage portal, and where the first aid trainer is. She's on one of the stones in the water. the quest is Winterfall E'ko. You recieve a necklace you keep in your inventory like the Cenarion Beacon from fellwood. When you kill certain mobs, Eko will drop. Different Eko is traded to her for different buffs.

The Winterall Furbolgs drop Winterfall Eko. Trading 3 of these in gives you 3x JuJu Power.

As a bonus, these Furbolgs also drop Winterfall Firewater

Blasted Lands

The simple way to explain this is as follows. When you enter blasted lands from swamp of sorrows, there is a line of NPC's to your right not far into the zone. 2 of them will have a number of quests for you to gather different bodyparts from different creatures in blasted lands.

It's a very simple grind to collect them and hand them in. You will get a reward of 1 different buff for each quest, and a new quest will be available to you now which is a repeatable quest to get that buff again.

The buffs are linked bellow. You can only own 1 of each type of buff, so you can't get a stack of 5 R.O.I.D's for example. You can only have 1 buff active at one time, the others will go on a 1 hour timer when you apply 1.

R.O.I.D's Ground Scorpok Assay Lung Juice

Potions of note

Elixer of the mongoose

Combat Healing Potion Greater Healing Potion Superior Healing Potion Major Healing Potion

Fire Protection Potion Greater Fire Protection

Things you can apply to your weapons

In these, I think Dense sharpening stones are the best value for trash mobs. Dense stone is cheap and easy to get, and they can't be resisted like poison, but the choice is up to the rogue. For Boss's like Rag I think the Elemental sharpening stones will be a good investment.

Instant Poison VI Made by rogues, and only used by rogues. Elemental Sharpening Stones Farm Elemental earth from low level rock elementals in Bad lands and Dense stone is from thorium viens and can be crafted by Asta of the Basin. Dense Sharpening Stones Dense stone is from Thorium viens and is crafted by blacksmiths.


That's it for now. Over the next few weeks try to collect some, have a play around with it in MC and get a feel for using them a little, but build up a supply for Ragnaros attempts down the road please. I'll add a strat section to this later, just wanted to get this information out as quick as I could.

Thanks

- Tin


General Tips

How to contribute to the raid

Class Roles and Guides

Molten Core Questline

Trash Mobs

Molten Giants and Destroyers

Lava Annihilators

Lava Surgers

Ancient Core Hounds

Core Hound Packs

Imps

Lava Packs

Boss Strategies

Lucifron

Magmadar

Gehennes

Garr

Baron Geddon

Shazzrah

Sulfuron Harbinger

Golemagg

Majordomo Executus

Ragnaros