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After waiting an appropriate length of time (not generally more than 30 seconds or so) and trying to ensure that all calls have been made, the loot leader will check the BRP tables and announce the winner, who will be the person with the highest number of current BRP (subject to the priority explained above – ie ''need/upgrade'' first, and if nobody calls these, then ''downgrade'').
 
After waiting an appropriate length of time (not generally more than 30 seconds or so) and trying to ensure that all calls have been made, the loot leader will check the BRP tables and announce the winner, who will be the person with the highest number of current BRP (subject to the priority explained above – ie ''need/upgrade'' first, and if nobody calls these, then ''downgrade'').
  
If nobody calls an item, it will either be disenchanted (if it is a bind on pick-up item) and the nexus shards bought by the Banker (see later), or held by the loot leader (if it is a bind on equip item) and distributed via the forums, using the BRP system.
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If nobody calls an item, it will either be disenchanted (if it is a bind on pick-up item) and the nexus crystals bought by the Banker (see later), or held by the loot leader (if it is a bind on equip item) and distributed via the forums, using the BRP system.
  
 
== Class discounts ==
 
== Class discounts ==

Revision as of 09:24, 11 April 2006

Introduction

The Basin on Tichondrius uses the Basin Raid Points (BRP) system to distribute loot dropped on raids. Key features of the BRP system:

  • It is a zero-sum points system with no inflation. Long-term, frequent raid participants cannot monopolize loot at the expense of less frequent or newer participants.
  • Items have a fixed point cost. When an individual loots an item, those points are deducted from his or her total and redistributed to the other people present on the raid.
  • Loot distribution is proportional to the time you spend raiding. Individuals can enjoy steady progress for each raid they attend without experiencing the ceiling of a weighted random system or the strict turns of a list system.

The system is subject to change at the discretion of the raid leaders, and indeed it has changed several times since inception. This document sets out the system in place as at 5 April 2006.

The BRP systems are managed by a dedicated website. We maintain separate BRP systems for each of the following:

  • Molten Core, Onyxia, World Bosses
  • Blackwing Lair
  • Ruins of Ahn Qiraj (AQ20)
  • Temple of Ahn Qiraj (AQ40)
  • Naxxramas

Points earned in one system may only be spent within that same system. This has been done to prevent farming points in earlier instances to spend in later ones.

Earning points

When an item is looted, the looter pays the points value of that item. That value is then divided by the number of raiders present, and awarded to them.

So basically, you earn points by being on raids where items are looted by someone other than you.

Spending points

When an item drops that is to be distributed by the BRP system, the loot leader will announce the item on teamspeak or in the raid channel (/ra), and invite calls. There are a number of calls you may make if you want the item:

  • Need: You should call need if you need that item on the toon you are playing on that raid. Need calls have the highest priority for loot.
  • Upgrade: You may call upgrade on your Tier 2 hat or leg item (dropped by Onyxia and Ragnaros respectively) if you already have the Tier 1 item for that slot. Upgrade calls rank equally with need calls, but the price that you pay will be the difference between the Tier 1 cost and the Tier 2 cost (ie 45 BRP rather than 175 BRP).
  • Downgrade: You may call downgrade on a Tier 1 item if you already have the Tier 2 item for that slot. Downgrade calls rank after need and upgrade calls in priority for looting, but if you win, you will pay nothing for the item.

After waiting an appropriate length of time (not generally more than 30 seconds or so) and trying to ensure that all calls have been made, the loot leader will check the BRP tables and announce the winner, who will be the person with the highest number of current BRP (subject to the priority explained above – ie need/upgrade first, and if nobody calls these, then downgrade).

If nobody calls an item, it will either be disenchanted (if it is a bind on pick-up item) and the nexus crystals bought by the Banker (see later), or held by the loot leader (if it is a bind on equip item) and distributed via the forums, using the BRP system.

Class discounts

Certain items may be available to certain characters at a discount to their value, to reflect the fact that these toons receive less utility from these items than others. Examples of this are:

  • Melee characters bidding on ranged weapons
  • Hunters bidding on certain melee weapons

However, someone paying the full price for an item (ie a hunter no a ranged weapon, or a melee character on a melee weapon) will always take priority over someone paying a discounted price.

Banker

The Banker is a dummy toon who exists in the BRP system to ensure that zero-sum is preserved. He will buy all items that are looted but not awarded to a character present on the raid (eg fiery cores, lava cores, bloods of the mountain, BoE items not won on the raid, Nexus shards etc). These items will be distributed on the forums as follows:

  • BoE items: Using the BRP system over a specified period of time (eg a week). People will place their calls on the forums and at the specified close time for that auction, the winner will be selected in the usual way, and the item mailed to them. BRP will be charged against the system in which the item was looted.
  • Cores/BotM/Nexus: People may request these for specific purposes through the forums thread. Distributions will be made periodically, according to current BRP totals, and items mailed to winners.

Item values

Item values are calculated according to the following formula (if you are curious as to where this comes from, you may like to read this reverse engineering thread:

BRP value = iLvl^2 * (Slot Mod * 1.2) * 0.025

Explanation of terms:

  • ilvl is the Item Level. It is squared to make higher-level items cost disproportionately more.
  • Slot mods are as follows:
    • Head – 100%
    • Neck – 54%
    • Shoulder – 74%
    • Back – 54%
    • Chest – 100%
    • Wrist – 54%
    • Hands – 74%
    • Waist – 74%
    • Legs – 100%
    • Feet – 74%
    • Ring – 54%
    • Trinket – 68%
    • Shield/off-hand – 50%
    • Wands - 45%
    • 1h Weapon – 70%
    • 2h Weapon – 110%
    • 1 Hand Melee Weapons for Hunters - 40%
    • 2 Hand Melee Weapons for Hunters - 60%
    • Ranged Weapons for Melee Classes- 40%
  • The 1.2 is the modifier for any purple (blues are 1.1 and greens are 1.0), again from the reverse engineering thread above.
  • The 0.025 is a constant that scales the values back down to something approaching our old BRP values.

This formula makes higher-level items cost disporportionately more as we get into harder and harder instances that drop epics with a higher base item levels. We pay more to reflect the increased difficulty of the instance and the dedication we have to put into our toons to be able to contribute to a boss kill that can drop an item of that level.

List of values

Set armours

Value Druid Hunter Mage Priest Rogue Shaman Warlock Warrior
Head Tier 1 130 Cenarion Giantstalker Arcanist Prophecy Nightslayer Earthfury Felheart Might
Tier 2 175 Stormrage Dragonstalker Netherwind Transcendence Bloodfang Ten Storms Nemesis Wrath
Shoulders Tier 1 95 Cenarion Giantstalker Arcanist Prophecy Nightslayer Earthfury Felheart Might
Tier 2 130 Stormrage Dragonstalker Netherwind Transcendence Bloodfang Ten Storms Nemesis Wrath
Chest Tier 1 130 Cenarion Giantstalker Arcanist Prophecy Nightslayer Earthfury Felheart Might
Tier 2 175 Stormrage Dragonstalker Netherwind Transcendence Bloodfang Ten Storms Nemesis Wrath
Bracers Tier 1 70 Cenarion Giantstalker Arcanist Prophecy Nightslayer Earthfury Felheart Might
Tier 2 90 Stormrage Dragonstalker Netherwind Transcendence Bloodfang Ten Storms Nemesis Wrath
Gloves Tier 1 95 Cenarion Giantstalker Arcanist Prophecy Nightslayer Earthfury Felheart Might
Tier 2 130 Stormrage Dragonstalker Netherwind Transcendence Bloodfang Ten Storms Nemesis Wrath
Belt Tier 1 95 Cenarion Giantstalker Arcanist Prophecy Nightslayer Earthfury Felheart Might
Tier 2 130 Stormrage Dragonstalker Netherwind Transcendence Bloodfang Ten Storms Nemesis Wrath
Legs Tier 1 130 Cenarion Giantstalker Arcanist Prophecy Nightslayer Earthfury Felheart Might
Tier 2 175 Stormrage Dragonstalker Netherwind Transcendence Bloodfang Ten Storms Nemesis Wrath
Boots Tier 1 95 Cenarion Giantstalker Arcanist Prophecy Nightslayer Earthfury Felheart Might
Tier 2 130 Stormrage Dragonstalker Netherwind Transcendence Bloodfang Ten Storms Nemesis Wrath

MC/Onyxia

Item name Thottbot Allakhazam BRP Value Item type
Aged Core Leather Gloves Link Link 105 Non-set armour
Ancient Cornerstone Grimoire Link Link 85 Range/Offhand/Shield
Aurastone Hammer Link Link 100 1-H weapons
Azuresong Mageblade Link Link 105 1-H weapons
Band of Accuria Link Link 100 Jewellery/Trinkets
Band of Sulfuras Link Link 100 Jewellery/Trinkets
Blastershot Launcher Link Link 160 Range/Offhand/Shield
Blastershot Launcher [Melee] Link Link 60 Range/Offhand/Shield
Bonereaver's Edge Link Link 195 2-H weapons
Brutality Blade Link Link 105 1-H weapons
Brutality Blade [Hunter] Link Link 60 1-H weapons
Cauterizing Band Link Link 80 Jewellery/Trinkets
Choker of Enlightenment Link Link 70 Jewellery/Trinkets
Choker of the Firelord Link Link 100 Jewellery/Trinkets
Cloak of the Shrouded Mists Link Link 90 Non-set armour
Core Forged Greaves Link Link 110 Non-set armour
Core Hound Tooth Link Link 105 1-H weapons
Core Hound Tooth [Hunter] Link Link 60 1-H weapons
Crimson Shocker Link Link 55 Wand
Crown of Destruction Link Link 175 Non-set armour
Deathbringer Link Link 120 1-H weapons
Deep Earth Spaulders Link Link 150 Non-set armour
Dragon's Blood Cape Link Link 85 Non-set armour
Drillborer Disk Link Link 65 Range/Offhand/Shield
Earthshaker Link Link 145 2-H weapons
Eskhandars Collar Link Link 80 Jewellery/Trinkets
Eskhandar's Right Claw Link Link 90 1-H weapons
Essence of the Pure Flame Link Link 115 Jewellery/Trinkets
Finkles Lava Dredger Link Link 160 2-H weapons
Fire Runed Grimoire Link Link 75 Range/Offhand/Shield
Fireguard Shoulders Link Link 110 Non-set armour
Fireproof Cloak Link Link 80 Non-set armour
Flameguard Gauntlets Link Link 105 Non-set armour
Flamewalker Legplates Link Link 110 Non-set armour
Gloves of the Hypnotic Flame Link Link 110 Non-set armour
Gutgore Ripper Link Link 100 1-H weapons
Heavy Dark Iron Ring Link Link 70 Jewellery/Trinkets
Helm of the Lifegiver Link Link 115 Non-set armour
Malistars Defender Link Link 85 Range/Offhand/Shield
Mana Igniting Cord Link Link 110 Non-set armour
Manastorm Leggings Link Link 120 Non-set armour
Medallion of Steadfast Might Link Link 75 Jewellery/Trinkets
Obsidian Edged Blade Link Link 155 2-H weapons
Onslaught Girdle Link Link 135 Non-set armour
Perditions Link Link 125 1-H weapons
Quickstrike Ring Link Link 75 Jewellery/Trinkets
Ring of Binding Link Link 85 Jewellery/Trinkets
Ring of Spellpower Link Link 70 Jewellery/Trinkets
Robes of Volatile Power Link Link 130 Non-set armour
Sabatons of the Flamewalker Link Link 105 Non-set armour
Salamander Scale Pants Link Link 125 Non-set armour
Sash of Whispered Secrets Link Link 110 Non-set armour
Seal of the Archmagus Link Link 80 Jewellery/Trinkets
Shadowstrike Link Link 130 2-H weapons
Shard of the Flame Link Link 110 Jewellery/Trinkets
Shard of the Scale Link Link 105 Jewellery/Trinkets
Sorcerous Dagger Link Link 90 1-H weapons
Spinal Reaper Link Link 190 2-H weapons
Staff of Dominance Link Link 160 2-H weapons
Striker's Mark Link Link 155 Range/Offhand/Shield
Striker's Mark [Melee] Link Link 55 Range/Offhand/Shield
Talisman of Ephemeral Power Link Link 90 Jewellery/Trinkets
Vis'kag the Bloodletter Link Link 115 1-H weapons
Wildgrowth Spaulders Link Link 110 Non-set armour
Wristguards of Stability Link Link 70 Non-set armour
Wristguards of Trueflight Link Link 80 Non-set armour

Blackwing Lair

Item name Thottbot Allakhazam BRP Value Item type
Angelista's Grasp Link Link 130 Non-set armour
Arcane Infused Gem Link Link 120 Class trinket
Archimtiros Ring of Reckoning Link Link 110 Jewellery/Trinkets
Ashjre'thul, CoS Link Link 195 Range/Offhand/Shield
Ashkandi, GotB Link Link 215 2-H weapons
Band of Dark Dominion Link Link 80 Jewellery/Trinkets
Band of Forced Concentration Link Link 90 Jewellery/Trinkets
Black Ash Robe Link Link 170 Non-set armour
Black Brood Pauldrons Link Link 125 Non-set armour
Boots of Pure Thought Link Link 110 Non-set armour
Boots of the Shadow Flame Link Link 155 Non-set armour
Bracers of Arcane Accuracy Link Link 90 Non-set armour
Chromatic Boots Link Link 130 Non-set armour
Chromatically Tempered Sword Link Link 125 1-H weapons
Circle of Applied Force Link Link 90 Jewellery/Trinkets
Claw of Chromaggus Link Link 125 1-H weapons
Claw of the Blake Drake Link Link 120 1-H weapons
Cloak of Draconic Might Link Link 80 Non-set armour
Cloak of Firemaw Link Link 90 Non-set armour
Cloak of the Brood Lord Link Link 110 Non-set armour
Crul'shorukh, Edge of Chaos Link Link 140 1-H weapons
Crul'shorukh, Edge of Chaos [Hunter] Link Link 80 1-H weapons
Doom's Edge Link Link 105 1-H weapons
Doom's Edge [Hunter] Link Link 60 1-H weapons
Draconic Avenger Link Link 165 2-H weapons
Draconic Maul Link Link 160 2-H weapons
Dragonbreath Hand Cannon Link Link 185 Range/Offhand/Shield
Dragonbreath Hand Cannon [Melee] Link Link 65 Range/Offhand/Shield
Dragonfang Blade Link Link 120 1-H weapons
Dragonfang Blade [Hunter] Link Link 65 1-H weapons
Dragon's Touch Link Link 75 Wand
Drake Fang Talisman Link Link 115 Jewellery/Trinkets
Drake Talon Cleaver Link Link 185 2-H weapons
Drake Talon Pauldrons Link Link 125 Non-set armour
Ebony Flame Gloves Link Link 125 Non-set armour
Elementium Reinforced Bulwark Link Link 90 Range/Offhand/Shield
Elementium Threaded Cloak Link Link 95 Non-set armour
Emberweave Leggings Link Link 170 Non-set armour
Empowered Leggings Link Link 180 Non-set armour
Essence Gatherer Link Link 65 Wand
Firemaw's Clutch Link Link 125 Non-set armour
Gloves of Rapid Evolution Link Link 120 Non-set armour
Heartstriker Link Link 185 Range/Offhand/Shield
Heartstriker [Melee] Link Link 65 Range/Offhand/Shield
Helm of Endless Rage Link Link 165 Non-set armour
Herald of Woe Link Link 185 2-H weapons
Interlaced Shadow Jerkin Link Link 150 Non-set armour
Lifegiving Gem Link Link 120 Class trinket
Lok'amir il Romathis Link Link 140 1-H weapons
Maladath, RBotBF Link Link 120 1-H weapons
Malfurion's Blessed Bulwark Link Link 170 Non-set armour
Mantle of the Blackwing Cabal Link Link 120 Non-set armour
Master Dragonslayers Medallion Link Link 110 Jewellery/Trinkets
Master Dragonslayer's Orb Link Link 105 Range/Offhand/Shield
Master Dragonslayers Ring Link Link 110 Jewellery/Trinkets
Mind Quickening Gem Link Link 120 Class trinket
Mish`Undare, Circlet of the Mind Flayer Link Link 205 Non-set armour
Natural Alignment Crystal Link Link 120 Class trinket
Neltharion's Tear Link Link 140 Jewellery/Trinkets
Pendant of the Fallen Dragon Link Link 90 Jewellery/Trinkets
Prestor's Talisman of Connivery Link Link 110 Jewellery/Trinkets
Primalist Linked Legguards Link Link 170 Non-set armour
Primalist Linked Waistguard Link Link 130 Non-set armour
Pure Elementium Band Link Link 110 Jewellery/Trinkets
Red Dragonscale Protector Link Link 80 Range/Offhand/Shield
Rejuvenation Gem Link Link 115 Jewellery/Trinkets
Ring of Blackrock Link Link 90 Jewellery/Trinkets
Ringo's Blizzard Boots Link Link 110 Non-set armour
Rune of Metamorphosis Link Link 120 Class trinket
Scrolls of Blinding Light Link Link 120 Class trinket
Shadow Wing Focus Staff Link Link 185 2-H weapons
Shimmering Geta Link Link 130 Non-set armour
Shroud of Pure Thought Link Link 90 Non-set armour
Spineshatter Link Link 110 1-H weapons
Staff of the Shadow Flame Link Link 215 2-H weapons
Styleen's Impeding Scarab Link Link 115 Jewellery/Trinkets
Taut Dragonhide Belt Link Link 125 Non-set armour
Taut Dragonhide Gloves Link Link 130 Non-set armour
Taut Dragonhide Shoulderpads Link Link 130 Non-set armour
The Black Book Link Link 120 Class trinket
The Untamed Blade Link Link 175 2-H weapons
The Untamed Blade [Hunter] Link Link 95 2-H weapons
Therazane's Link Link Link 155 Non-set armour
Venomous Totem Link Link 120 Class trinket

AQ20 BRP Price List

Item name Thottbot Allakhazam BRP Value Item type
Boots of the vanguard Link Link 100 Non-set armour
Bow of Taut Sinew Link Link 155 Range/Offhand/Shield
Bow of Taut Sinew [Melee] Link Link 60 Range/Offhand/Shield
Bracers of Brutality Link Link 85 Non-set armour
Buru's Skull fragment Link Link 70 1-H weapons
Class skill book Link Link 80 Misc
Crossbow of Imminent Doom Link Link 175 Range/Offhand/Shield
Crossbow of Imminent Doom [Melee] Link Link 65 Range/Offhand/Shield
Dustwind Turban Link Link 145 Non-set armour
Gauntlets of New Life Link Link 120 Non-set armour
Gauntlets of the Immovable Link Link 105 Non-set armour
Gloves of Dark Wisdom Link Link 120 Non-set armour
Helm of Domination Link Link 160 Non-set armour
Leggings of the Black Blizzard Link Link 160 Non-set armour
Manslayer of the Qiraji Link Link 145 1-H weapons
Manslayer of the Qiraji [Hunter] Link Link 80 1-H weapons
Ossirian's Binding Link Link 120 Non-set armour
Qiraji Hilt Link Link 105 Quest item
Qiraji Hilt [Hunter] Link Link 60 Quest item
Qiraji Sacrificial Dagger Link Link 95 1-H weapons
Qiraji Sacrificial Dagger [Hunter] Link Link 55 1-H weapons
Runic Stone Shoulders Link Link 120 Non-set armour
Sand Polished Hammer Link Link 110 1-H weapons
Sandstorm Cloak Link Link 85 Non-set armour
Shackles of the Unscarred Link Link 85 Non-set armour
Slimy Scaled Guantlets Link Link 105 Non-set armour
Staff of the Ruins Link Link 175 2-H weapons
Stinger of Ayamiss Link Link 100 Range/Offhand/Shield
Talon of Furious Concentration Link Link 75 1-H weapons
Thick Silithid Chestguard Link Link 145 Non-set armour
Vestment of the Shifting Sands Link Link 135 Non-set armour